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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Help! Wheat DME or normal DME
« on: February 06, 2017, 04:30:55 PM »
Is the question whether it will be an issue for the yeast if the starter doesn't have wheat? If so, the answer is no, it doesn't matter to the yeast.

Questions about the forum? / Re: Separate Subforum for Low Oxygen Brewing?
« on: February 05, 2017, 03:57:28 PM »
I'm just here to say I'm not wearing pants

The Pub / Re: Recommend a mail-order beer store please
« on: February 04, 2017, 04:02:39 PM »
I know they are in PNW but you should join the email list for Bring on the Beer just for the hilarity of their release emails.

My first batch was the Brewer's Best Belgian ale kit. I brewed it in a bucket in my apartment kitchen. It was so hot that summer that it fermented well over 80F and my apartment reeked of esters for days. It wasn't bad. It wasn't great but it wasn't awful. I've had worse Belgian beers from US craft breweries, sadly.

I've brewed some really awful beers in the names of experimentation, dialing in my brewing system and occasionally making truly stupid mistakes.

All Grain Brewing / Re: OG very high...
« on: February 03, 2017, 06:08:39 PM »
Meh.  I've never experienced thin beer from topping up.  If you know your volumes, you can calc the gravity and the amount needed to top up to where you want to be. 

Thin beer seems like there's a problem somewhere else.

I agree. If you're topping up beer that is short on volume but has the right amount of sugar (after topping up) then it shouldn't be thin. The top up is just replacing the water that should have been in the beer but for the excessive evaporation in the kettle.

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Test my harvested yeast?
« on: February 03, 2017, 06:05:38 PM »
Drain off some of the liquid and add some wort. Put the lid back on and screw on the ring halfway so it can vent gas. If it ferments it's good.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Diacetyl
« on: February 02, 2017, 04:35:34 PM »
The answer to OP's question is that the right amount of diacetyl is whatever amount you enjoy in the beer.

I don't believe in enslaving myself to trying to brew with authenticity if for no other reason than because there's not a single right answer to how any style or region brews. You can find British beers (or English beers, more specifically) with high levels of diacetyl all the way down to low levels. No part of that range is more or less authentic.

[Rant on]I have 3 issues with many Brulosophy experiments. One many experiments are not based on what is known in the brewing literature so the experiment is sometimes not properly designed and sometimes the experiment does not create knowledge. Two the beers being brewed aren't good candidates for the experiment echoing what lupulus wrote, I.e. a beer with strong flavor is not useful for testing subtle differences. Third the write-ups are horrible as useful details are mixed in with useless details. An executive summary would really help. Pictures of thermometers have little value. [Rant off]

While I share these criticisms I also recognize that at the end of the day these are just a group of homebrewers in very typical homebrewing environments brewing typical homebrew beers while looking at common brewing variables. I agree that an IPA is not a good recipe to explore a small flavor component on a broad scale, if you brew a lot of IPAs then their data point might be useful to your IPAs.

Sometimes they present the findings too broadly for the experiment but IMO the bigger problem is people taking their data points and expanding them to conclusive proof of the entirety of the variable explored.

Ingredients / Re: Max aroma, minimize flavor
« on: February 01, 2017, 04:00:00 PM »
That sounds like a confusing beer--but it's your beer.

Beer Recipes / Re: What style am I? Fruit or Fruit and Spice?
« on: January 31, 2017, 03:59:45 AM »
I dislike that the wit guideline demands use of coriander at an identifiable level.

I agree with the other comments; adding spices within the range of the base style guideline does not cast the beer into a spiced category unless you are using such a high degree of spice or an unusual spice for the style that it needs to be called out into a specialty style.

This is very true. Homebrewers cite to a given experiment as conclusive proof of a given point but the conclusion rarely has such a broad application. Generally the results are some evidence of a particular conclusion under a particular set of circumstances.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Message to the forum. from me.
« on: January 30, 2017, 05:59:56 PM »
Other mods may be more in tune with what is happening. I know I have seen objections to Bayareabrewer's posts, It is simply impossible for me to police every post made on this forum. If there were inappropriate posts by certain individuals it wasn't intentionally over looked. I promise that.

Maybe it is time for the admins to appoint another mod or two.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Message to the forum. from me.
« on: January 30, 2017, 05:10:05 PM »
I was under the impression a troll is someone that intentionally spouts of nonsense in a deliberate manner to ruin things. For example, if someone came on here and just said "I hate beer and homebrewing should be illegal" or something like that. I've never intentionally been a troll or tried to ruin things.

My beliefs towards all this LODO stuff is well documented. The response I've gotten from the LODO proponents has been to either call me a "amateur hobbyist" or state that my ignorance is not as good as their knowledge. That's where my problem lies with them.


I lurked for a long time before making an account, and it really seems that the behavioral issues revolve around 2 members, monk and beerery. Just my observation.

You've definitely trolled those two with snide comments and personal attacks. That is not to say their comments are always above the board but neither are yours. You've inserted personal attacks and snideness into meaningful dialogue in ways that makes it difficult to imagine your goal wasn't to derail the conversation on LODO.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Message to the forum. from me.
« on: January 30, 2017, 05:03:52 PM »
Jeeeezuz, what'd I miss? I don't check the forum out for a couple of days and come back to meltdown. What's the matter with you guys? It's only beer, do it the way you want and move on. The low oxygen threads are information threads, not argument starters. Is it STILL June of 2016?

I think you answered your own questions. You can never leave us.  8)

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Message to the forum. from me.
« on: January 30, 2017, 04:46:04 PM »
I don't have a strong position about LODO. The goals of the LODO advocates are not necessarily my goals. I appreciate the ideas they have brought and earnestly believe they are trying to make the best beer they can in the styles they enjoy drinking and want to help others do the same. I think overall since the return of LODO advocates the conversation has been constructive and several members have tried their techniques and report positive results.

That said, I do think the forum, as a whole, has been a less receptive place since their return. I agree with Keith's concerns that a lot of topics suffer a heavy handed response of a paragraph of brewing text with the expectation that this is the single correct answer and intimates that all other responses are wrong. Sometimes an interesting technical conversation arises from it but the original topic question gets lost. That's no problem with everybody in the conversation has a high level of brewing knowledge but many of the posters and lurkers here are not technical brewers or seek a more narrow answer to their question. It pulls most conversations here into a LODO discussion.

I do not mean LODO discussions are bad or mean to vilify LODO. I would feel the same way if people came and drew all conversations into brewing IPA, using eighteenth century English brewing methods, or only preached mixed fermentations. No paradigm or style should monopolize discussion.

Encouraging good discussion is all of our responsibility. None of our participants should be permitted to post in a manner that is oppressive or dismissive of others. Conversations should endeavor to stay on topic, within reason. We've always meandered through topics but if a conversation is veering into a technical area or brand new subject it should be peeled off into a new thread or relegated to an existing thread on that subject. When we respond to a thread, we should always consider whether our response is helpful and responsive to the OP.

I think our mods should moderate towards these ends. Posting bare blocks of texts from brewing manuals or links without context or application to the subject should not be permitted unless requested by another poster. Topics with a limited subject should be cleaned up or closed when they derail unhelpfully. I am generally not a fan of aggressive moderation but we may be at a point where the forum needs some breathing room.

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