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Beer Recipes / Re: Help dialing in a Saison recipe
« on: September 05, 2015, 08:33:49 AM »
With saison recipes (really with any recipe) less really is more. I'd challenge you to justify every ingredient. If it doesn't fit into your vision then it should go.

I generally think the chocolate malt and honey are unnecessary, you have too much munich and probably too much wheat unless you plan on addressing it in the mill and/or mash. You could go with more hops for a hoppier saison and I'd probably move the five minute addition to a whirlpool or flameout addition. But I don't know your vision for this beer and the recipe as it is may be appropriate.

I'm comfortable with the mash schedule. I usually mash my saisons at 144-146 and then up to 156. I like drying out the beer with the lower mash temperature but I usually spend more time at the beta rest and less at the alpha rest. The alpha rest, for me, is more about making sure I have complete conversion rather than trying to keep around longer chain sugars.

Ingredients / Re: Harvest Hops & Aphids
« on: September 05, 2015, 08:15:45 AM »
Those aphids are probably dead after getting blown with hot air for hours. If not, I wouldn't be too worried. They slurp up the sap of the plant and have no interest in the lupulin. Now that the hops have been dried out they will likely move on to look for a new plant to attack.

If you have an aphid problem at harvest then you've probably had a problem all season. That's something to look out for next year.

Ingredients / Re: Southern pecan porter
« on: September 05, 2015, 08:12:01 AM »
You often see nuts added in the mash rather than the boil. I think you need that long warm rest to extract the flavors. I would be concerned about the boil extracting unwelcome tannins and other harsh flavors. I would also be concerned about scorching the pecans in the boil because I assume they will eventually sink to the bottom and stay there.

I don't think caffeine content is affected by whether the bean is ground any more or less than extraction of any other compounds, including the coffee flavor. Caffeine extraction is less at cooler temperatures so it might be easier to rack away from whole beans but to limit caffeine you want to do a post-fermentation steep. If you're dead set on keeping away from caffeine then you need to go with a decaf bean.

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Favorite Bo Pils Yeast
« on: September 05, 2015, 07:51:30 AM »
I like 2000. It's very soft and malty but you can work the water and hops to impart crispness.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: stupid carbonation question
« on: September 05, 2015, 07:39:00 AM »
It's also my approach with some imprecise addition of sugar for beers that have aged for a length of time.

IMO it's extremely important to calculate from the warmest post-primary fermentation temperature for beers fermented on the warmer side like saisons. If you calculate priming weight from a calculator with a fixed temperature in the upper teens/low twenties celsius or use whatever the present temperature is but you let fermentation wrap up closer to 30C you'll end up with one undercarbonated saison.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Corny Beers
« on: September 01, 2015, 08:29:45 AM »
Miller has a really obvious corn taste to me.

Rolling Rock is surely the example of bad corn flavor in beer.

For a non-macro option I'd look to any of the cream ales on the market. Possibly a pre-pro lager if you can find one in your market with corn.

The Pub / Re: Pepper Plants
« on: September 01, 2015, 08:26:45 AM »
Beer is probably the best option because it's not toxic to the plants or beneficial bugs (except the ones that drown in it). It is effective with snails and slugs.

DE is another good option because it's non-toxic for the plants and humans. It will work on snails and slugs but it will also kill off other beneficial bugs, like earthworms. Every time it rains or you water you have to reapply.

There are other options like rock salt, coffee grounds and poison but whatever you put around the plant is going to be absorbed by the plant and ultimately by you. Even non-toxic options like salt and coffee grounds can be harmful to your plant even if it's not harmful to you (excess salt and acidity).

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Full Sail & Logsdon news
« on: August 31, 2015, 09:17:54 AM »
I don't think the Full Sail sale has anything to do with the shakeup at Logsdon's.

From bits and pieces gathered it sounds like there is a division in the direction of Logsdon's between Logsdon and some of the other investors.

Kegging and Bottling / Re: Brown Stain in Corny Keg
« on: August 30, 2015, 11:52:35 AM »
You might need someone with skinny arms to reach the bottom to scrub.

Ha!  I know exactly what you are talking about.  Got my arm caught in one a few weeks back.  Next time I will hold my wife upside down by her legs and let her go in for a good cleaning.

Words to live by.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Belgium/West Coast beer swap
« on: August 30, 2015, 11:51:16 AM »
Deschutes Green Monster,    Double Mountain has a good hoppy one (hoplava)

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I believe Green Monster was a single release and possibly difficult to find at this point.

Ingredients / Re: Brand new brew guy needs advice
« on: August 29, 2015, 09:08:08 AM »
I think by yeast berries you meant wheat berries. I'd say skip using raw wheat until you have more experience brewing. Raw wheat isn't used all that much in brewing and often requires some additional processes to be useful in brewing.

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: British Ale Yeasts
« on: August 29, 2015, 08:59:07 AM »
London Ale III, which I believe is the Boddington's strain, is a fairly neutral English yeast if you're out to avoid too much yeast flavor. If you decide to get off the English ale kick you can keep using that yeast to brew those Vermont-style IPA/APAs.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: lesser known hop recommendations
« on: August 29, 2015, 08:53:18 AM »
If mosaic is unreasonably priced or difficult to find then that would be number one on the list to find. All the others listed would be great options as well.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: What qualifies as "Real Ale"?
« on: August 29, 2015, 08:51:49 AM »
I think you have a good handle on CAMRA's definition of real ale. I would add that CAMRA limits its definition of real ales to UK ale styles. I do not believe real ale requires use of ingredients from England or any other part of the British Isles or to be brewed there but I do think they would not consider similar practices, e.g. German kellerbier, to qualify as real ale.

Your checklist is a pretty good test for real ale if you add a line to check the beer style. The big issue for homebrewers is usually whether CO2 is artificially introduced to carbonate or serve the beer. CAMRA opposes even the CO2 breathers on casks because it interferes with the natural oxidation that otherwise occurs in a cask. If you bottle your beer using the standard bottling bucket and priming sugar process then undoubtedly your beer is real ale.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Belgium/West Coast beer swap
« on: August 29, 2015, 08:35:40 AM »

The three base sour beers fro DeGarde are easily available across OR and worth the journey. I wish I could tell you to send your friend hunting for Ale Apothecary but the guy uses these cork and twine enclosures on his bottles that tend to leak in travel. Crooked Stave beers are excellent and if available then worth it. Cascade is solid, especially if you like fruited sours but I would take Logsdon's Cerasus over Cascade's cherry offering.


Deschutes Black Butte whatever number they are on (28?) was just released and is an interesting take on the imperial stout/porter style.

If you really enjoy the taste of peat malt then you should ask for a bottle of Hair of the Dog Adam. Not sure how easy it is to find bottles outside of the brewery.

Not sure if the Firestone Walker barrel aged malt bombs sit on the shelf where shopping will be done but those are all good choices.


The Commons puts out a range of saisons and other Belgian styles that are solid. Maybe not worth bringing out since you have closer access to Fantome, Blauges, etc. Same goes for Logsdon.


I'd just trust your friend to know what is locally available and fresh for him. If he can get you Pliny that's cool. If he's willing to take a growler and he can get it then you should beg for Boneyard's Triple IPA which I think is better than Pliny (I'm just not a simcoe fan) but doesn't get bottled.

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