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Ingredients / Black Garlic - Garlic Breadth
« on: November 13, 2016, 01:02:53 AM »
First, this isn't a joke.

I'm trying to brew a beer with Black Garlic, and it is inspired by a Dogfish Head Beer named Garlic Breadth. The description is here:

"Black garlic was added in the whirlpool post-boil to contribute a subtle garlic layer to the aroma and flavor of the beer."

My wife loves stouts, and loves garlic, and she loved this beer. Honestly I thought it was pretty good as well.
I will be using a base beer that I brewed that I think is pretty close to the base of this beer. It really was a porter, near stout, with just a little bit of garlic poking through.

I looked around a little bit but couldn't find much info. So the question is how much would anyone guess to use in a typical 5g batch? I really have no idea where to start here. If anyone has any other recommendations for methods to get the black garlic flavor into the beer I'm all ears.

Thanks for any help!

Zymurgy / Re: Nov/Dec Spike Brewing V3 Misleading Ad
« on: November 07, 2015, 07:52:02 PM »
I understand it's unreasonable to expect a discount on something that isn't on sale. However in our exchange they did then point me to the pre-order page and asked if I wanted to pre-order the kettle. All I asked them to do is apply the discount to the pre-order, and getting 50% off vs paying full price is a big deal. Also, just looking at the ad I have no idea on how they were going to make good on a bubble that says 50% off of their new kettles.

Zymurgy / Re: Nov/Dec Spike Brewing V3 Misleading Ad
« on: November 07, 2015, 02:28:23 PM »
No, the 50% off is done and over with. It wasn't for just after the kettles are released, but rather just the first 5 people to use the code. 50% off was off of current inventory, which wasn't explained at all anyway, and not where the bubble is pointing.

Zymurgy / Nov/Dec Spike Brewing V3 Misleading Ad
« on: November 07, 2015, 01:34:19 PM »
On page 41 of the Nov/Dec issue, Spike Brewing had an ad for their new V3 kettle. If you look closer at their ad there is a bubble on the left pointing to the new kettle stating that the first 5 people to use a code get 50% off. It doesn't state any restrictions in the ad, nor on their site when trying to use the code.

I rushed to the site and couldn't find a place to purchase the new V3 kettle. I purchased an old kettle in order to reserve my spot and secure the code and then immediately told them what happened and that I would like a V3 instead. They proceeded to tell me it's not 50% off the new kettles(which the bubble is pointing to), but rather their older model kettles and the new ones wouldn't be out until late Nov.

I understood the kettles weren't out yet, however they had pre-orders and wouldn't even give me the discount off of a pre-order. For all I knew this was some kind of promotional pre-release for their new kettles. They told me I would lose the discount because it was first come first serve and wouldn't hold my spot until release in Nov. But I wasn't asking to wait, I was asking to apply it to a pre-order.

To make matters worse, they said the following during my email exchanges with them, "The ad is for 50% off (which means we are losing money) and I guess no good deed goes unpunished." and "There were dozens of people that have asked about the code after it expired that would have been happy to take the 50% off." I'm sorry, but to me this is a cocky attitude and doesn't help resolve the issue that the ad was very misleading and they weren't even looking to make it right. Also, I didn't want their older kettles because they aren't induction capable, it didn't fit my needs, so I wasn't about to take a discount on something I didn't need. So in the end I was one of the first five people, and never received 50% off of anything.

To make sure I wasn't nuts in how I interpreted the ad, I've asked several other homebrewers and homebrew club members how they took the ad and what their expectation were after seeing the ad. They all said they took it as 50% off of their newer V3 kettles, and were appalled that Spike Brewing didn't make it right and honor their ad.

I'm putting this out there to let others know how they handled the situation, and also to let Zymurgy know how their sponsors are treating people.

All Grain Brewing / Re: Another band-aid off flavor post
« on: February 25, 2014, 12:14:54 AM »
I'm currently fermenting a Wit that I brewed on Sat, I started it at 64F for a day and now I'll let it sit at 68-70F for the remainder of the fermentation. Do you think I should try pulling very small samples every couple of days to see at what point the flavor gets into the beer, if it does this time? It's only a 3g batch so I don't want to take too many samples.

To answer a couple questions above no I don't think I'm oversensitive to clove and phenolic flavors. I've had probably hundreds of different types of these beers and it's never as much as this.

Also I don't use any odd cleaners on any of my equipment, just Oxyclean Free with a good rinse and then StarSan.

All Grain Brewing / Re: Another band-aid off flavor post
« on: February 18, 2014, 10:50:01 PM »
I have pretty good temp control during fermentation and pitch within 5 degrees of ferment temps. I have a temp controlled fridge with a controller, or I put the carboy in a plastic bin filled with water to prevent giant swings, this goes in a back room in my cellar that stays cooler(58F in the winter to 72F in the summer). I use the thermometers that stick on the side of the carboy. I have an ambient temp thermometer next to the carboy to watch those temps as well. I oxygenate for about a min with O2.

I don't treat my RO water, would chloramines really only show in these beers and not others?

Thanks again everyone for replies.

All Grain Brewing / Re: Another band-aid off flavor post
« on: February 15, 2014, 02:07:55 AM »
No I've had plenty of brews of all of these styles and they aren't like this, this is highly band-aid like. Since I enjoy all these other styles I don't think I'm highly sensitive to it either.

What fermentation temps generally cause this? I've heard conflicting theories on this, people say high temps, but I also know low temps tend to bring out more clove and less fruit(esters).

All Grain Brewing / Re: Another band-aid off flavor post
« on: February 15, 2014, 01:33:18 AM »
I ferment in better bottles. The RO water I use to brew with comes from the local grocery store, so I can't filter it. If it did have chlorine in it I'd think it would influence the other styles.

All Grain Brewing / Another band-aid off flavor post
« on: February 15, 2014, 01:13:36 AM »
On all of my beers that use a phenolic yeast the character is very pronounced. It's the band-aid smell and taste, and very clove-like. I understand these styles should have some of these qualities, mostly clove, just not in this high of an amount.

The styles are
  • Hefeweizens(WY3068) - Tried 62F, 68F ferm temps
  • Wit(WLP400) - 68F ferm temp
  • Tripels(WLP530) - Tried 62F, 68F ferm temps
Other  info
  • I use RO water to brew
  • I don't believe the water I use to clean has chlorine(2ppm from local water report) high enough to do anything
  • None of my other beers have this type of off flavor and in general are pretty clean, so I'm reluctant to say infection
  • I sanitize with StarSan
  • I typically brew 3-4 gallon batches with at least a 1000mL starter on a stirplate
  • I have never used Brett in a beer
Any suggestions getting rid of this off-flavor would be much appreciated. I've researched this up and down and I can't find anything that seems to be a source. Thanks

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