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Other Fermentables / Re: Butterbeer anyone?
« on: July 20, 2018, 02:16:14 PM »
Ferment too cold, secondary early like after the first 3 or 4 days of fermentation, etc.  This should get you a relatively buttery beer if all the conditions are right, and if you used a yeast strain that is prone to it.

I suppose I could take a look at my old lager brew logs and figure out which yeast caused the most diacetyl for me -- await an update from me in a little while.  My guess is probably 2308 or WLP820 or both -- I haven't used either one of those in many years now, and haven't had any diacetyl problems at all in many years either (which I think is good, but you...)

In addition to my old quote above, you could also lock in diacetyl by racking early and often.  Yeast eats diacetyl.  But after primary fermentation is mostly complete, if you immediately rack the beer, chill it down, wait a couple days, then rack again, thus removing like 99% of all the yeast, there won't be as many yeasties to eat the diacetyl, thus locking it in a bit.

You're crazy, you've been gone a while, but you're obviously serious about your request, so we'll help you out if we can.

White Labs has some diacetyl numbers on their website, sadly it is not complete.

Two I found quickly. 830 ~ 231 ppb, 833~ 90 ppb.

All Grain Brewing / Re: efficiency
« on: July 18, 2018, 03:14:08 PM »
This is an interesting seems a fine crush may be working against you...

But that will depend on each person's system and crush.  My efficiency definitely increased when I went to a finer crush.  You just can't generalize.

Let’s see, BIAB, Batch sparge with a hose braid, false bottom and fly sparging. One would expect different results for different equipment and process.

Ingredients / Re: whirlpool/dry hops? how much?
« on: July 18, 2018, 11:53:23 AM »
How about containing the hops in a mesh container in a keg and periodically jumping the beer back and forth to another, à la torpedo?   Oxygen pickup at the outset would still be a problem. Maybe just flush that keg with CO2 the best you can.  Anyway it's just an idea you could play with.
It is some time and effort, but I have had excellent results using my HopRocket as a torpedo, and transferbetween kegs. Receiving keg is purged. Load HopRocket with whole cone hops, purge the HopRocket and lines with CO2. Transfer beer slowly. You can then transfer back and forth between the kegs to get the exposure time to the hops. I think I did it 4 times and really liked the results.

I need to do this again. Finding whole cone hops has been hard of late, but my LHBS has some ounces in again. Time to do that technique again.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Brew Systems RO water treatment
« on: July 17, 2018, 01:40:28 PM »
Just a side note on this thread.  I have a household RO system since our water is so bad, lots of black manganese in our well that fortunately is caught in the pre-filter.  Plus, our water has over 400 grains of hardness (yeah, it is really brackish).  I can get brewing water out of t he RO system since I have a 7.5 gallon tank attached to it, but it still takes about a day and a half to collect enough water for 10 gallon batches.

It is easier for me to go to the local Clearwater outlet, a Culligan competitor, which is only three miles away to buy my RO brewing water.  The tech that works there assures me that they test the water for TDS every day and are now testing for pH every day as well since I had a few instances where i measured it in the 8+ range (probably because the filters needed changed).  The last batch I got was pH 6.9 after calibrating my pH meter which is close enough.  It's only $1.50 for 5 gallons and with their rewards card I get 5 gallons free after buying 10 jugs worth.  Yeah, I have to haul 40# jugs into my brewery (which fortunately is right off the garage), but I can deal with that and don't encounter any wrath from my wife when I ran the RO out of drinking water.

Moral of the story, if you use one  of the commercial outlets rather than some place like Walmart, they will be glad to work with you to make sure your water is mineral free.  You will also not run into the Rankert Syndrome where you get dirty looks from other customers when you are filling bottles!

Beer Recipes / Re: Native American beer
« on: July 17, 2018, 01:10:42 PM »
Tiswin made from Saguaro cactus would not be traditional, as the Navajo lands are out of the Sonaoran desert. That was something the Tohono O’odham made.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 80 year old hops plant.
« on: July 16, 2018, 10:26:59 PM »
Are there ways to test or discern what kind it is?
The easy way is to brew with it and see what it reminds you of. Intermediate is to have a hop expert look it over and see if they can make an educated guess (or send some leaves and cones to your state Ag. School). The expensive way is DNA testing.

I’m not sure where you are. It could be a native plant variety. More likely it is a type of Cluster, which was the most grown hop until the 70’s IIRC.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 80 year old hops plant.
« on: July 16, 2018, 06:15:25 PM »
I think it was in Stan Hieronymus’s book For the Love of Hops, he stated that hop fields in the Tettnanger region of Germany last for 100 years. If the hops are good, the can have a market. One plant won’t produce much, though.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Brew Systems RO water treatment
« on: July 16, 2018, 01:04:12 PM »
I bought a system a little over a year ago. I got tired of going to the store and wrestling the 5 gallon jugs in and out of the car to home.

My tap water TDS is 650+, and the RO is usually 10 or less ppm.  I have changed the pre filters once. I don’t think I am spending too much on this water. My back thanks me.

Edit - Then there were  the times I got the stink eye from people lined up as I filled 4 5 gallon jugs. One had 2 5 gallon jugs, so I was not so sorry.

If you look on various online buy/sell lists such as Craigslist, you can find brewing equipment for cheap.

I agree with Jim. Also, if you are going to spend a lot of money on a kettle, make sure you won't be itching to replace it within a year. I started with a small stovetop kettle for partial mash and extract brews and quickly wanted to upgrade. It was less than $50, but it is now sitting unused. I eventually purchased a 10 gallon kettle on sale for $49 and added an electric element myself. I saved hundreds of dollars and have been using that happily for a couple of years. Think carefully before dropping a lot of bucks on equipment and make sure that what you buy today will work for you next year.

Control that fermentation. Second vote for Jim.

When you do buy a kettle, make sure it has the size and all the options you want now and down the road.

Buy once, cry once!

All Grain Brewing / Re: pale malt difference
« on: July 13, 2018, 10:22:16 AM »
I just tasted a gravity & pH sample from my first brew with Simpson's Golden Promise (I know, how did I not get to this before.)  I think I'm in love.
I like the GP from Simpsons over other maltster.

Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Yuengling Golden Pils
« on: July 10, 2018, 10:48:44 PM »
My local kwikee mart has six packs of 16-ounce cans of this for $7.99 plus tax.  Well worth it after working in this heat all day.

Local too.

The Pub / Re: What's the Weather Like Where You Are?
« on: July 09, 2018, 01:34:04 AM »
You need the moisture, correct?

Most definitely. Was an early spring too, so no significant precipitation since March. You can probably tell by the grass if you look closely. ::)
Ah, yes.

We were in Santa Fe in April, they said they didn’t have a winter. No snow in the mountains equals no water in the reservoirs.

The Pub / Re: What's the Weather Like Where You Are?
« on: July 09, 2018, 01:08:17 AM »
I guess it's officially an early monsoon season, four afternoon hailstorms in a row...

You need the moisture, correct?

They were celebrating in Santa Fe when they got rain a day ago.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: PBW vs TSP
« on: July 09, 2018, 01:05:19 AM »
I've been reading a lot of labels. The more I read the more confused I get. Some TSP is TSP, some is sodium meta whatever which is also in PBW. Does it really matter?  I'm beginning to think not. Use whatever to get off the gunk and then rinse the hell out of it.
Many states/ local governments outlawed true TSP as it was a problem in the downstream runoff, as the phosphates cause algae blooms in ponds and lakes.

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