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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Brewers at White Labs
« on: June 18, 2015, 03:41:01 AM »
Somehow I did not return with a 2MBC sticker. Maybe I can pick one up driving through in October?

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Events / Re: NHC 2016 Location
« on: June 18, 2015, 03:24:27 AM »
Baltimore. June 9-11.

I got a text or a Tweet (not sure which, it just showed up on my ipad) that said it's Philly next year.  :o
Yeah, I did too from the conference App, followed by "oops Baltimore!".

Not in Philly.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 18, 2015, 03:19:48 AM »
GC members are elected at large, no regions for the elections. We do listen to the member input.

Fill out that survey. If you feel strongly about it, e-mail the AHA and the competition sub-committee.

Jeff,
I know the survey is mostly going to be looking for feedback from San Diego, but will there be one for the membership as a whole, especially if it provides feedback for future conference and competition rules.  I assume the survey you are talking about is only being sent to those who attended San Diego.

Thanks!
Yes, I was talking about the SD survey. There is usually a where would you want to see the conference question.

There will be more surveys, participate! One can always contact the AHA. Give your input to the staff or the committee chairs.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 17, 2015, 08:02:56 PM »
GC members are elected at large, no regions for the elections. We do listen to the member input.

Fill out that survey. If you feel strongly about it, e-mail the AHA and the competition sub-committee.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 17, 2015, 05:48:15 AM »
Isnt there like 30k members and like 4k enter?
There are just over 40k members, 3181 entered in 2014.

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Beer Travel / Re: River Cruising
« on: June 17, 2015, 01:14:25 AM »
The real advantage to the river cruise though is that one unpacks once.  Your motel (and restaurant if you don't want to eat ashore) goes with you.  I am very attracted to doing a cruise on the Danube.  Lots of wonderful places to see and things to do.  No it is probably not the best *beer* tour venue but still very attractive to me.  It is on my bucket list.
One can get on the Rhein around Koeln, go through the Altmuehltal that connects the Main to the Danube, and proceed down to Budapast or farther.

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Brewers at White Labs
« on: June 17, 2015, 12:35:47 AM »
I knew about fermenting ales under top pressure, but I had never heard of anyone fermenting lagers at 65F using this method

From what I understand, it's SOP at many, if not most, of the macro lager breweries.
Jason Pratt from Miller Coors said they ferment at 2 bar! Those are some robust fermenters.

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Events / Re: NHC 2016 Location
« on: June 17, 2015, 12:25:30 AM »
Baltimore. June 9-11.

Who actually votes on the locations?
You can vote for what cities you would consider in the survey if you went this year.

It is not popular vote, the AHA/BA decides. If it were a popular vote it would always be in a big city. Grand Rapids proved to be a good location. Someday Asheville or Austin might be good places.

Some where I said there are a list of criteria considered for possible locations, it goes into the process, and a decision is somehow arrived at later.


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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC 2015 First Round Results
« on: June 16, 2015, 07:03:38 PM »
I didn't see Gordon after the banquet, I was going to ask him if he hears footsteps.
Especially impressive considering the more recent entry limit rules.
The 3 consecutive will stand.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 16, 2015, 06:59:28 PM »
I have to say as someone who grew up in Indiana where every school played in the basketball tourney with no size categories (remember the movie Hoosiers?), the term Basketball State Champion was cheapened when they finally did go to a size based tourney. It ain't what it used to be, I don't follow it anymore. Just my $0.02.

I don't follow it anymore either, Jeff.  It ruined it.  I'd add though that Hickory High still got to play 5 against 5 when they played Muncie.
Bobby Plump's Last Shot was an institution in Broad Ripple, still there I think. An Indiana reference for sure.

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Events / Re: NHC 2016 Location
« on: June 16, 2015, 06:56:54 PM »
Just my speculation, but the last two conferences held in the South, Dallas and Orlando, were the biggest (maybe only) financial losses the NHC has ever had. The Orlando conference was widely skipped due to a very high cost of transportation for most of the country. I was there, and the Florida liquor laws made for a very awkward situation (no beer in the hallways, for instance).

The southern states have been slow to catch on to the craft beer movement, minus Asheville, and there are few major cities with enough breweries and craft bars to drive people to want to come out for a week of drinking. There are some good breweries across the region but the concentration just isn't the same yet. So I certainly understand why we have been left out of the NHC site list.

In 2002 Dallas had very little craft beer presence. I can't see why anybody would have wanted to come to Dallas at that time for the beer scene. There are longstanding homebrewing clubs but it's not like people go to NHC to hang out with the local clubs. In many ways we are still a long way off from many other metropolitan areas. For example, Dallas-Fort Worth is 2/3 the size of the Baltimore-Washington D.C. metro area but we don't even have a fraction of the number of breweries listed by Mark. Things are changing and it may not be too long before Austin or DFW hosts an NHC in the future.

Austin was long rumored to be in the running for 2014, but fell off due to "legal issues". What those were is something I don't know. You might ask around, or contact the Conf. Sub Committee. If some law needs to be changed you could help with that.

Austin is a place I know due the family in TX. It and the area would a great location.


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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 16, 2015, 06:32:35 PM »
Drew' suggestion to entry number weight the first round entries is good and workable.

Amanda's suggestion has attractiveness and would be workable. I have to say as someone who grew up in Indiana where every school played in the basketball tourney with no size categories (remember the movie Hoosiers?), the term Basketball State Champion was cheapened when they finally did go to a size based tourney. It ain't what it used to be, I don't follow it anymore. Just my $0.02.

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Events / Re: 2015 NHC Impressions
« on: June 16, 2015, 06:11:04 PM »
NHC will need to be in Asheville soon.

Going to have to figure out where in Asheville to put 3000-4000 people and how to get them in/out since the Asheville airport is not exactly a hustling hub.

Drew,

A little off topic but do you know why the NHC is almost always the 2nd week in June?  Is it just because that's the way it's been done in the past, easier to get a conference rate at hotels before the summer season really kicks in, or the membership has indicated later would conflict with other summer plans?  I know Philly was a special situation, but it was great to roll a couple extra days in there through 4th of July and not conflict with the kid's school activities.

Mostly just curious if the AHA has ever investigated this.  I'm sure, like everything else, some would love it...others would hate it.

Thanks.

I can't say exactly why, but the conf. centers need to have an opening when then the AHA starts looking for a location. Some cities are booked far in advanced for conferences that always happen there at that time.

Early June has problems for those with kids that are still in school or are educators in some states. In Michigan schools don' t start until after Labor Day (state law to help the tourist industry up north), so getting in the required number of school days makes the school calendars run into June. Make up snow days push the last day farther into June. Did anyone notice that Joe and Andy Hudecek were not at the conference for the first time since 2003? Joe is a High School Chemestry teacher.

Asheville has a lot going for it, but flights would be a problem for many. The AHA questionnaire has cities that one would consider going to. I have not filled mine out yet, is Asheville on it? Let the AHA know there is interest if it is not.

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Beer Travel / Re: River Cruising
« on: June 16, 2015, 05:47:51 AM »
How well does that Eurail system work? Looks like two adults traveling together could do Germany Luxembourg Belgium france and Ireland for about $900
Rail in Europe is great, but it does come with its cons. Primarily time compared to a bargain airline.
The trains take you to the downtown station, where you want to be.

The discount airlines fly in and out of the farthest out airport with cheapest fees. Then you spend time and money getting downtown. The cheap airlines use Hahn airport for Frankfurt, Hahn is in the middle of no where with no public transportation.

That is why trains are still used in Europe for shorter travel, say Koeln to Munich. One would need to research the options.

Edit - to be clear I would fly from Rome to London.

The trains are great for shorter travel.

I would just target Belgium and Germany (maybe Czech Rep.) for a trip. Brussels to Koeln and Duesseldorf, then down to Munich (mostly high speed), Munich to Nuremburg (high speed), Nuremberg to Bamberg.

Edit 2 - we have bought German rail passes for travel in Germany only. Not so expensive.


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Events / Re: NHC 2016 Location
« on: June 16, 2015, 05:37:42 AM »
One has to understand that Baltimore and Washington, D.C. are part of the same metropolis known as the Baltimore-Washington metropolitan area.  This area also includes Northern Virginia.  Maryland is split in two by the Chesapeake Bay and the Susquehanna River.  The portion of Maryland that lies west of the Chesapeake Bay is known as the Western Shore.  The portion that lies east of the Chesapeake Bay is known as the Eastern Shore (which is part of the Delmarva Peninsula).   

Western Shore Breweries

Baltimore-Washington Beer Works (RavenBeer) - Baltimore, Maryland
Barley And Hops - Grill & Microbrewery - Frederick, Maryland
Baying Hound Aleworks - Rockville, Maryland
Brewer's Alley - Frederick, Maryland
The Brewer's Art - Baltimore, Maryland
Denizens Brewing Company - Silver Spring, Maryland
Diamondback Beer - Baltimore, Maryland
DuClaw Brewing Company - Bel Air, Maryland
Ellicott Mills Brewing Company - Ellicott City, Maryland
Flying Dog Brewery - Frederick, Maryland
Franklin's Restaurant, Brewery, and General Store - Hyattsville, Maryland
Frey's Brewing Company - Mount Airy, Maryland
Full Tilt Brewing Co - Baltimore, Maryland
Gordon Biersch - Rockville - Rockville, Maryland
Growlers of Gaithersburg - Gaithersburg, Maryland
Clipper City Brewing Company (Heavy Seas Beer)- Baltimore, Maryland
Jailbreak Brewing Company - Laurel, Maryland
Milkhouse Brewery at Stillpoint Farm - Mount Airy, Maryland
Monocacy Brewing Company - Frederick, Maryland
Mully's Brewery - Frederick, Maryland
Oliver Breweries/Pratt Street Ale House - Baltimore, Maryland
Peabody Heights Brewery - Baltimore, Maryland
Pub Dog Brewing Company - Westminster, Maryland
Push American Brewing Co at Frisco Taphouse - Columbia, Maryland
Ruddy Duck Brewery & Grill - Dowell, Maryland
Ruhlman Brewery LLC, "OUR ALES" - Hampstead, Maryland
Scorpion Brewing - Owings, Maryland
Union Craft Brewing Company - Baltimore, Maryland
White Marsh Brewing Company - White Marsh, Maryland


Eastern Shore Breweries

Burley Oak Berlin, Maryland
Eastern Shore Brewing - St. Michaels, Maryland
Evolution Craft Brewing Company - Salisbury, Maryland
Fin City Brewing Company - Ocean City, Maryland
RAR Brewing - Cambridge, Maryland
Shorebilly Brewing Co. - Ocean City, Maryland


Maryland passed a law few years ago that allows for the establishment of breweries that are located on working farms.  Milkhouse and Frey's are farmhouse breweries that grow their own hops.


Now, if we include the District of Columbia (a.k.a. Washington, D.C.) and Northern Virginia (Washington, D.C. is roughly the same distance from Baltimore that Escondido is from San Diego), we can add the following breweries to the list.

District of Columbia Breweries
 
3 Stars Brewing Company
Atlas Brew Works
Bluejacket
DC Brau Brewing Company
District Chophouse
Hellbender Brewing Company
Right Proper Brewing Company


Northern Virginia Breweries

Heritage Brewing Company
Lost Rhino Brewing Company
Mad Fox Brewing Company
Old Ox Brewery
Port City Brewing Company
Adroit Theory Brewing Company
Beltway Brewing Company
Corcoran Brewing Company
Forge Brew Works

Dogfish Head is also close enough to have a presence - they did for Philly.
Blue Earl in Delaware was started by a former Governing Committee member.

Personal confession - was driving from Rehoboth Beach to home after the conference, and when we crossed into Maryland it dawned on me what Delmarva stands for. Doh!

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