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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Aerarting still hot wort
« on: July 11, 2016, 07:41:21 PM »
I thought he was saying to get other things under control first, later in the process. Cold side aeration will stale a beer regardless I'd it was brewed with care on the hot Side or not. You have to take care as you go along, and do everything low O2.



Yeah, I've always been more careful on the cold side than the hot side, Jeff. But it's past time to put more caution into the hot side as well. I fell into the trap of 'HSA is overstated' for a long time, but I'm ready to take care of the whole process. Not sure how far into the GBF process I'll go , but I'm gonna start using Brewtan B on every batch and probably work some of the other lodo principles in as well.

Yeah, I got to be complacent. I know some guys who brew very good beer and splash and aerate like crazy. I can't say how long the beer is stable.

I try not to splash the mash and wort. We put 1 Campden tablet into the mash, but that is too little to late. I don't do the boiled and chilled thing. No DO meter here.

I do have a couple ideas to try, but I might need to get a DO meter for those techniques.

Soon we will be back in Germany, and touring a few breweries. I will ask what they do, some smaller ones won't do anything.




I look forward to hearing what they say.
I still have some to set up. Guides may not have that level of detailed knowledge. Will see what I find.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Why Do You Homebrew?
« on: July 11, 2016, 06:27:13 PM »
For me,it is something I can plan, purchase, prepare for, process the wort, control the fermentation, package, condition, consume and share, enter in competitions, and get great satisfaction from.

Add to the above, I have made great friends, done cool things, become a BJCP judge, and waste time on forums. Beercations are also a part of the lifestyle. Heading to Germany again, because the wife and I can, and love it there.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Aerarting still hot wort
« on: July 11, 2016, 06:21:02 PM »
I thought he was saying to get other things under control first, later in the process. Cold side aeration will stale a beer regardless I'd it was brewed with care on the hot Side or not. You have to take care as you go along, and do everything low O2.



Yeah, I've always been more careful on the cold side than the hot side, Jeff. But it's past time to put more caution into the hot side as well. I fell into the trap of 'HSA is overstated' for a long time, but I'm ready to take care of the whole process. Not sure how far into the GBF process I'll go , but I'm gonna start using Brewtan B on every batch and probably work some of the other lodo principles in as well.

Yeah, I got to be complacent. I know some guys who brew very good beer and splash and aerate like crazy. I can't say how long the beer is stable.

I try not to splash the mash and wort. We put 1 Campden tablet into the mash, but that is too little to late. I don't do the boiled and chilled thing. No DO meter here.

I do have a couple ideas to try, but I might need to get a DO meter for those techniques.

Soon we will be back in Germany, and touring a few breweries. I will ask what they do, some smaller ones won't do anything.


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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Aerarting still hot wort
« on: July 11, 2016, 05:05:31 PM »
Bamforth's previous view seemed reasonable to me. Basically, a brewer should avoid HSA, but there are other staling factors of much greater concern.

Do you have a source or know what he said that was different Denny?

Haven't sourced it yet, but I understand that he said it was likely more of an issue than he had previously stated.  But I don't get the impression that his position changed a lot.
That wouldn't surprise me. If you listen to all of their shows in order you get Bamforth's "not as big a thing as we thought" and then subsequent paraphrasings make it sound even less important.

I think they were actually saying that of all the things to worry about HSA should be lower on your list than things like cleaning, sanitizing and steady fermentation temps.  Given all the debate over this topic (and the lack of debate on the other three mentioned), it seems that advice is still on target.

I thought he was saying to get other things under control first, later in the process. Cold side aeration will stale a beer regardless I'd it was brewed with care on the hot Side or not. You have to take care as you go along, and do everything low O2.

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Equipment and Software / Re: Brewing with a pump
« on: July 11, 2016, 03:48:10 AM »
If you lift the pump and hoses up, you can drain them into the receiving vessel.

I like pumps when brewing, I have 2. I also have a dodgy old back.

One tip is to have some fittings so that you can hook up the tap water hose to the hose you use for chilling, and flush the hoses and running pump when you are cleaning up. Drain the hoses and pumps when finished.

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Hop Growing / Re: my Galena hops are flowering but no cones
« on: July 10, 2016, 02:46:53 PM »

They were harvesting Simcoe last year. The charts I remember said Centennial was earliest, then Simcoe.

At Perault they were starting the harvest with Simcoe, but they don't grow Centennial.

OK, that makes sense.  Based on what we heard, it sounds like they all wish they didn't grow Centennial!
Yeah, but it is the second most used hop in Craft beer, so the demand drives the supply.

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Hop Growing / Re: my Galena hops are flowering but no cones
« on: July 10, 2016, 11:26:20 AM »
Be patient. My Centennial is the first to have cones. The others will form soon. Centennial is also the first to be picked, both for mine, and out in Yakima.

I thought Simcoe was usually the first harvested.  It seems like when we get there for Hop School the harvest has just begun and they're bringing in Simcoe.  I may be misremembering, though.
They were harvesting Simcoe last year. The charts I remember said Centennial was earliest, then Simcoe.

At Perault they were starting the harvest with Simcoe, but they don't grow Centennial.

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Equipment and Software / Re: New Mill Rollers
« on: July 10, 2016, 04:31:03 AM »
Have you tried swapping ends on the 2nd roller?

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 120F Whirlpool hop addition only
« on: July 10, 2016, 04:29:43 AM »
I will be looking for the results.

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Hop Growing / Re: my Galena hops are flowering but no cones
« on: July 09, 2016, 05:52:06 PM »
Be patient. My Centennial is the first to have cones. The others will form soon. Centennial is also the first to be picked, both for mine, and out in Yakima.

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I have seen those references. There was also one somewhere that pointed out the ratio is less for short boils times,  more trans than Cis, so late hop beers will have less bitterness stability.

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Yes, the IBUs decrease wth time. Do a web search for the Delgleish curves on beer aging.

Or read this, found a graph.

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Kegging and Bottling / Re: Sudden loud Co2 leak from spare tank
« on: July 08, 2016, 02:16:49 PM »
CO2 is gas over liquid in the tank below about 88-89F. Above that it turns to gas. Was the garage hot? If so you hit the pressure relief, and it vented


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Ingredients / Re: Brewtan B
« on: July 08, 2016, 09:59:27 AM »
Fresh malt? Augustiner has their own Malting's, that is fresh! Good luck getting some of that malt.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: 100% base malt for APA
« on: July 07, 2016, 10:57:58 AM »
to me it won't turn out any more complex than and English golden ale 12A
I really like some of those.

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