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Equipment and Software / Re: New Equipment at NHC
« on: June 17, 2014, 08:56:23 AM »
There was a small 1 gallon counter top draft system, called SYNEK, that used like 1 gallon mylar bags to keep the beer in.  They are starting a Kickstarter in the next couple days.

Another new item was a smaller Brewhemoth that was unveiled.  It was basically the same as the normal one except more in the 14 gallon range.

The SS Brew Tech stuff has been around for quite some time (though I admit I like their small conical). 

The Clear Draught System has been around for awhile as well.

National Chemicals had a new cleaner that came in tabs and was meant to be dropped into a 1/2 to 1 gallon growler and left to sit to clean it.  I got a sample but have not tried it out.

Not really new but I never saw it before O'Connors Homebrew Supply has a large pitch of a 'West Michigan Ale Yeast'.  I picked up a vial to give it a whirl.

There were these 'TurboPots' that had finned bottoms and were suppose more efficiently use the heat from your burner and heat quicker.  Looked pretty interesting. http://www.turbopot.com/

The turbo pot does look interesting.  Seems like one of those ideas that looks obvious after someone else comes up with it.   ::)

I wonder if making each fin a "swirl" to the edge of the of the pot would be ever more efficient?  Of course the manufacturing cost might out weigh the benefit.

Very cool!

Paul

I said "why wasn't this done before for pots".  Finned heat exchangers are in wide use. Those fins looked like they were machined in with a CNC machine. Spiral might be only marginally more.

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Events / Re: 2014 NHC Grand Rapids Review
« on: June 17, 2014, 08:51:27 AM »
A few people liked the early morning running tours of GR. I am not a runner, I just heard about it.

Did anyone take the bus tours to breweries? I didn't have time for those. Interested if they were good.

Austin would be fun, but it only has the one commuter train, and I have never used the bus system there. I stay away from 6th street, as I am way too old for those shenanigans.




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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 2014 NHC Seminars
« on: June 17, 2014, 08:44:20 AM »
Awesome Duncan, thanks for all your efforts.  I don't mind waiting a month or two...I'm sure the AHA folks need a little break after getting back home from NHC too.

Great conference and can I say your security detail are people not to be messed with, but are some of the nicest people at the conference.

The stern looking guy with the crew cut, Kevin, remembered me from last year (in a good way). Talked to him several times and had good conversations. At the end he said that crowd was well behaved, and he really liked the layout of the Devos from his perspective.

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Beer Recipes / Re: IPA Recipe
« on: June 17, 2014, 06:57:52 AM »
my only complaint is I don't think you need the cara pils.

At GR Jeremy Kosmicki said he does not pay attention to what is said in the interwebz. He brews to his taste, uses a lot of carapils and crystal in his beers, and is after balance, not the West Coast thing.

It was refreshing to hear that. Not that I like carapils and crystal , but I appreciate the end beer.

What about books? Is it ok to listen to what's said in them? If so I'd suggest to consult Mitch Steele's IPA book about the over use of crystal malt in IPA brewing. I'm assuming Mitch brews to his taste too. ;)

Seriously, I agree that everyone should brew to your taste. My tastes don't appreciate the combination of too much crystal malt in addition to american C hops. But I don't think the OP is doing theat here. That said, I still don't think the .5 lb of cara pils really does much for the recipe.

He is one of those West Coast guys.  ;)

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 2014 NHC Seminars
« on: June 17, 2014, 06:55:45 AM »
I would say it's usually about a month after the conference if I remember correctly.
Agreed, and some presentations take a little longer to show up. Some will be on the site in a month or so.

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Events / Re: 2014 NHC Grand Rapids Review
« on: June 17, 2014, 06:53:25 AM »
The BN as Club of the Year is a complete sham.   Quaff was robbed again.  When is HomebrewTalk going to form a club??   

I believe HBT is a registered club as is Chop and Brew.
Quaff got close but the rumor going around was they were purposely entering in different regions so they wouldn't be competing against each other in the first round.  Also, there was a rumor (can't verify though) that they were willing to give entrants a free first year membership if they entered under QUAFF.

I didnt mind the BN winnning as a club in the beginning, but now that they are a Business first, IMO that makes them not a club. Time to explore a rule change there on what identifies you as a club.

FYI.. The Brewing Network CLUB was not setup by Justin or anyone on the BN staff.  It was a BN listener that didn't have a local club near them.  I've won under the BN club before but since have joined a local club and always enter under them.  Justin accepts the award for the BN club, but has always made an effort to get those prizes out to the actually winners (he gave away a whole Lost Abbey gift set that the club won last year to the winners).

I think Club-only comp points for the first part of the year were included since they still had those comps through May/June.  I believe this is where the BN get a bunch of points.

Regardless, the rules were followed and the BN Army won fair and square.  Ask the GC to bring up the issue this year and change the rules, but you do so by alienating several members with no local club.

The booing this year was the worse it's been in the past three years.  There was more of that than people applauding.  It really is a shame, and puts a black mark on a substantial percentage of the AHA membership.

QUAFF used to get boos, so did the St. Paul club at the end of their streak. Both had multiple Ninkasi winners in the club that helped the win. Some did not like that fact.

After the ceremony I was talking up front. Justin said QUAFF lost by 6 points. He said they should take it to the BN as next year it is on QUAFF's home court. Then Kurt Stock told Justin he was joining QUAFF next year. Zing! Kurt has a great sense of humor, said that if you don't know him.

I agree that BN won fair and square under the rules that take virtual clubs into account.

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: First Funky
« on: June 17, 2014, 06:13:05 AM »
The brett will actually convert some of the esters/phenols and acids produced by the saccharomyces strain that the initial beer is fermented with changing them into more funky compounds that we all know and love in these wild styles.
Greg Doss did a talk a a few years back that had samples. Clean yeast strains gave insipid funky beers, 3878 was wonderful as the primary yeast. The talk is on the conference page somewhere.

What does that trick do?

It adds starch for the bugs and critters. Easier than the traditional turbid mash by a bunch.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 2014 NHC Seminars
« on: June 17, 2014, 04:56:31 AM »
Those take some time. The AHA staff was at the conference, and has to unpack in Boulder. They moved to a new office 2 weeks ago. Give it some time.

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The gurus in West MI like Hill Brothers in Alpine MI.

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: First Funky
« on: June 17, 2014, 04:46:14 AM »
One trick for pseudo Lambics is to mix in some wheat flour near the end of boil.

Keep the hops at 10 IBU or less.

If you want more funk from Brett use phenolic yeast like 3787. Roselare has 2 Belgian wheat/wit yeast strains.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 2014 NHC forum meet up
« on: June 16, 2014, 07:45:01 PM »
I'm sure you could ship to the hotel and get it at check in. Most will do that.

I've also checked lots of craft and homebrew in my luggage.

Sent from my XT1030 using Tapatalk



Thanks, Jimmy for the insight.  I have not checked a bag in so long that I didn't think about that!  Good to know on both counts.

Jeff - I wanted to give something back to the hobby and Carol was sooo grateful for the helpers.  Besides, pouring beer to beer enthusiasts is no hardship - the easiest volunteer job I have ever done, for sure.

+1. You also get a T shirt, right.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 2014 NHC forum meet up
« on: June 16, 2014, 07:09:21 PM »
I'm in the front row on the far left.  I should have brought beer - but it was my first conference and I didn't know a whole lot about the protocol.  My question for San Diego is how to get beer out there, if I fly out there next June.  Any thoughts on that?  It would be nice to be able to ship some, like you would to a contest. 

By the way - Denny and Drew's talk was the most entertaining one that I attended!  I had a lot of fun at the NHC and volunteered six hours, so I look forward to listening to the seminars I missed.

Cheers, all!

If you volunteered, you earn extra interwebz points! Good on you!

The conference depends on volunteers to do the behind the scenes jobs.

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Beer Recipes / Re: IPA Recipe
« on: June 16, 2014, 06:46:11 PM »
my only complaint is I don't think you need the cara pils.

At GR Jeremy Kosmicki said he does not pay attention to what is said in the interwebz. He brews to his taste, uses a lot of carapils and crystal in his beers, and is after balance, not the West Coast thing.

It was refreshing to hear that. Not that I like carapils and crystal , but I appreciate the end beer.

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: Ninkasi
« on: June 16, 2014, 06:38:50 PM »
You and Larry Reuter would have won if you had put the silver in you name. Donna was listed first on the IPA silver.

I always am listed first for our beers, as that is the reality - numbers, process, heavy lifting are my domain.

that's a misunderstanding people have come to a lot.
I got a gold, for one of my 4 entries.
Cole got a Silver, with me as the co-brewer, for his only entry.
(another guy got 1 of 2 in the finals, but no medals, with me as a co-brewer).
2 medals out of 7 entries with me somewhere on there.  Not 2 under my AHA number.

so Cole+Michael and Michael are separate teams and separate point totals, as it should be.

as for the Reuters, if they are a husband/wife duo who each entered 2, with the other as their cobrewer, then they deserve Ninkasi.  If they used the fact that they've got two AHA numbers to get 5-8 entries, up to 4 each with the spouse as each others' co-brewer, then they're in the same basic situation as Cole and I, and it's two different teams.

I see the nuances of the Ninkasi now, thanks for that insight.

At Zanesville I judged with Larry and was very glad to see them medal in the 2nd round.

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Events / Re: 2014 NHC Grand Rapids Review
« on: June 16, 2014, 06:30:03 PM »
Fatguybrew - the social club was in the Expo area in Philly. The vendors that I know were happy with the extra space in the expo this year, even with more vendors.

Jeff - there were some second round bottles in Conf. chair's suite afterwards. I don't know why they were there, or why not outside the banquet for the hour the tap was open.

In the expo there were brewery reps pouring beer, and I talked to several I know. There must be some language that makes that OK. At the Michigan Brewers Guild Festivals, the brewers and staff are pouring beer. At local festivals they can be behind the booth,but can't pour. I will have to ask about that.

I liked last year more because the entrance went through the social area, not to the side of a BN broadcast where no one could enter. But what I really ment was the after events social hour. It was just outside the halls. Having it in an area in the hotel last year worked really well I thought.

One difference was that very few AHA events were in the Hotel(s) this year. There were 2 wedding parties in the Amway Grand on Saturday night.

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