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The Pub / Re: Another One for Denny.
« on: September 06, 2011, 02:16:50 PM »
From CA??  Where the hell do they think hippies were invented??  ;)

Pioneertown is up by Yucca Valley in the sticks, did a day trip to Joshua Tree from there.  It was built for TV and movies after WWII.  Instead of fronts, it is made of buildings.  Cisco Kid and such were filmed there.

Pappy and Harriets is an indie place for musicians.  The web site points out that Robert Plant and Eric Burdon have played there along with other notables.  Was a decent meal too.  It was on Antony Bordain's last show that we watched, so it will be on the tourist/foodie trail now.

Hippies were invented in the Bay Area, yes.


The Pub / Another One for Denny.
« on: September 06, 2011, 02:02:23 PM »
From after the NHC, up in Pioneertown, at a Roadhouse named "Pappy and Harriets".  Remembered I had it on the phone.  Must be a Southern California thing.  All in good fun.  ;D

Beer Travel / Re: Palm Desert (Palm Springs)
« on: September 06, 2011, 01:55:00 PM »
You can find a Trader Joes in one of the towns in that area, stopped on the way from the NHC to stock up on food for the stay in the Desert.

If you are going to/from Joshua Tree NP, take a detour and go up to Pionertown.  This is a town built for the sets for TV and movies after WWII.  Think Cisco Kid for example.  There is a roadhouse named "Pappy and Harriets".  They have at least Sierra Nevada Pale Ale on tap, good BBQ and grilled food, and a killer Texas swing band playing the first night we stopped in.  Liked it so much we went back the next night. It also was on the last "No Reservations" that we watched, so it might become too popular.

EDIT - There is a Trader Joes in Palm Desert.

Go to the Trader Joes and do the store finder for Palm Desert.  OK beer selection, might be good for that area.

Equipment and Software / Re: Help me improve my efficiency
« on: September 06, 2011, 11:06:15 AM »
I'm not sure I would rank crush as the #1 influence for efficiency.  I'd rank duration of mash and duration of runoff as high influences for mashing efficiency.  If I want poor efficiency, all I have to do is runoff quickly.  Extending  runoff duration to 30+ minutes is a great efficiency booster in my experience.

This can be true.  My post assumed that the process was under control.  I learned a long time ago that 60 minute mashes and 45 minute fly sparges work great on my system.

Other factors to consider are the accuracy of the grain weights, and accuracy of the volumes. 

Equipment and Software / Re: Help me improve my efficiency
« on: September 05, 2011, 06:24:09 AM »
You're on the right track when considering the crush of your grains.  You could have the LHBS run the grain through twice, but I suggest getting your own adjustable mill.  After I got my mill,  I went from low 60's to 75-80% efficiency.
This is true.  Crush is numer one.  They have a setting that will not stick on most systems, but is coarse.

Check your temp calibration, temps are #2.

pH is #3.

Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Sam Adams Octoberfest 2011
« on: September 01, 2011, 04:54:07 PM »
I bought six of these last night and had one so far.  Pretty nice traditional O-fest if you ask me.
My six pack had a $1 off coupon on it, but when I got to check out, I found it was $1 off cheese.  No brands or styles mentioned, just cheese.  Why does Boston Beer Co. want me to have cheese?  What's that got to do with Oktoberfest?

I always liked this cheese dish with my Munich beers.  Maybe?

edit - and one of those really big white radishes on the side.  Oh, man!

Equipment and Software / Re: Hop Rocket - used as Randall
« on: September 01, 2011, 04:44:18 PM »
Yeah ... but I'm not buying it. My brewery is. And it's stainless.   8)

But never mind. A friend of mine is going to mail me him. I needed it for a festival this weekend. Still may look into one in the future. I agree it is pricey. But like I said .... it's stainless.   8)

It is a thing of beauty, inside and out.  Ask your friend if he has had the high flow mod done.  I bought an early one, sent the top in for the mod.  Now it holds 3 Oz, but less chance for the hops to plug it up.

Beer Travel / Re: Munich for Oktoberfest 2011
« on: September 01, 2011, 04:40:26 PM »
Andechs Doppelbock Dunkel comes to mind.

I put this on the list.  My buddy said he's been to the Andechs biergarten before and that it was one of the best he'd been to while living in Munich.

If he does not get down to Andechs, there is an Andechs bierstube in the Frauenkirke platz, other end from the towers with the onion domes.

Ingredients / Re: Setting up a hop yard
« on: September 01, 2011, 02:49:48 PM »

More than 10 lbs from 2 plants!?
Good God!
I'm hanging it up.
I only get about 5 oz per plant.
Those are 'wet'/fresh weights - so about 2 lb dry.

In the PNW they get about 2000 lbs/acre, 1000 plants/acre, so 2 lbs/plant.

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: WLP002 English Ale
« on: September 01, 2011, 11:37:12 AM »
WLP-002 is the same as Wyeast  1968 London ESB, which is Fullers yeast.

I have never had to rouse it,and have had good fermentations that finish at a low gravity and then the yeast drop out, and the beer is quickly brilliant.  Some have it drop out early, as you said.  This is the go to British strain in my brewery, but I do use many others. 

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Summer Beers in London
« on: September 01, 2011, 11:08:28 AM »
I'm planning a trip to Britain this winter. I will have to let the forum know of the current going-ons of the winter seasonal ales in London, Birmingham, Edinburgh, and Aberdeen.

I also deeply agree that the current competition judge thinking that every bitter has to taste like EKG or Fuggles is deeply flawed. Even when I studied in London in 2005 there were bitters brewed with cascades that weren't called "American" or anything like that - British brewers have always been willing to use foreign hops, as far as I know... and American hops frankly work great in low-mid gravity, subtly estery pale and amber ales.
Rooster Yankee used to be a good example of a bitter with Cascade Hops.  Didn't see it this time.

Beer Travel / Re: Local beer recommendations - MI, MN, WI, SD, ND
« on: September 01, 2011, 11:04:21 AM »
OK - you are in that line of work, so here goes.  Fred linked you to the Michigan Beer Guide, which is something to bookmark.

Kuhnhenn and Dragonmead in Warren, Big Rock in Birmingham.  Ann Arbor has 5 brewpubs + the Corner Brewery in Ypsi.  OG in Milan is making some really clean and balanced beers - the 440 pepper smoker is one that is a little out of the box.

I-94 has breweries from Ann Arbor to the State line.   Local Pub and Brewery in Jackson, Arcadia in Battle Creek, Bells, Paw Paw in Paw Paw, Livery in Benton Harbor and Greenbush in Sawyer (exit 12).

If you are heading up along Lake MI, there is Saugatuck in Douglas and Odd Side in Grand Haven.  

In Sparta, there is Michgan Beer Cellar, making some really tasty IPA's.  The British IPA is based on the owners NHC gold medal winner from a few years back.

Fred covered Grand Rapids, but I hear good things about Hideout Brewery.

Michigan Brewing is in Weberville, they make the Celis line up these days.

Redwood Lodge on the south side of Flint has won many GABF medals and has been Small Brewpub of the year.  The brewer that won those is no longer there of late, so I can't say if the beers are still as good.

Edit - you should be able to find some Shorts in a good beer bar or at a party store (as liquor stores are called here).

Edit #2 - Dark Horse in Marshall.  Great taproom with an "up North feel to it".

Beer Travel / Re: Local beer recommendations - MI, MN, WI, SD, ND
« on: September 01, 2011, 10:36:00 AM »
MI has the Upper and the Lower Peninsulas.  The Lower has many more brweries, and those are the ones I am most familiar with.

Recommendations will differ if you are crossing at Detroit, Port Huron, or at Sault St. Marie.

Beer Travel / Re: Local beer recommendations - MI, MN, WI, SD, ND
« on: September 01, 2011, 09:07:18 AM »
You didn't say your route, but in MI you should try Shorts.  In Wisconsin New Glarus.  In MN try Surly.

There are many other good ones in MI that have limited distribution.

Ingredients / Re: Setting up a hop yard
« on: September 01, 2011, 09:03:58 AM »
The commercial farms plant about 1000 hop plants per acre.  

I have 11.  Can't even imagine working on 250 for a quarter acre.

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