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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: More lager challenges
« on: December 30, 2011, 07:01:31 AM »
Tygo is correct on the hop substitution.  Liberty is a Hallertau Mittelfrueh derivative.  You can also use Mt. Hood, Ultra, Crystal, and Vanguard in place of Liberty.  These are all Hallertau Mittelfrueh derivatives, sisters if you want to call them that.

Saaz and its derivative Sterling are more spicy. 

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All Grain Brewing / Re: poor all grain efficiency, don't know why
« on: December 28, 2011, 08:13:49 AM »
The big points have been covered.  If you can, run the grains through the LHBS mill twice.  If your efficiency goes up, then you know you need a better crush than one pass at their standard setting.

If you want to go into some depth, read these articles on Kai's site.

http://braukaiser.com/wiki/index.php?title=Understanding_Efficiency

http://braukaiser.com/wiki/index.php?title=Troubleshooting_Brewhouse_Efficiency

http://braukaiser.com/download/Troester_NHC_2010_Efficiency.pdf

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Equipment and Software / Re: Recirculating Immersion Chiller with Pond Pump
« on: December 27, 2011, 10:25:48 AM »
Higher the better for the Pond Pump.  I think you have a type, should be 250 gph.  I have one that is 550 gph, and I find that I want more flow, as the cooling rate would be higher.  This  is with a 50 ft 1/2 inch copper chiller.

Use tap water to get down to <100F, then hook up the pond pump (might be yoiur plan).  This time of year I do not need the ice bath/pond pump for ales.  Do need it for lagers.  Did a 10 gallon batch of Pils yesterday, and it required 2x7 lb bags of ice to get from 66 to 46 F. 


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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: WL833 tastes sweet
« on: December 27, 2011, 10:00:27 AM »
There is a recipe for Ayinger Altbarish Dunkel in "Brew Classic European Beers at Home" by Wheeler and Protz.  Do you have that one?  Never made it, so don't know if it is a keeper.

Yep.  Got it, made it, not gonna use that recipe again.  It was a while back so I don't recall exactly what it was, but I think the beer turned out way too sweet and thick.

Not a keeper.

Trumer Pils is worthy of trying to replicate.  Yummy stuff.

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: WL833 tastes sweet
« on: December 27, 2011, 09:04:26 AM »
There is a recipe for Ayinger Altbarish Dunkel in "Brew Classic European Beers at Home" by Wheeler and Protz.  Do you have that one?  Never made it, so don't know if it is a keeper.

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Plan to get a big English Barleywine in on Friday, a Check Pils on Saturday or Monday, and a German pils mid week.  The CAP might have to wait until late next week.

The English Barleywine was last Friday, 1.111 OG.  The Czeck Pils was today, hit 1.048 on the nose. 

Starting to think that the fermenters are full, adn I have to do some packaging if the beer(s) are ready.

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: WL833 tastes sweet
« on: December 26, 2011, 07:33:23 AM »
833 is my choice for malty lagers, while I use 830 for dry lagers like a Pils.

833 is the Ayinger strain, so you might try and find some Ayinger beers for comparison.


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The Pub / Re: merry Christmas/happy holiday of choice everybody
« on: December 25, 2011, 09:26:43 AM »
Merry Christmas.  A sunny day here for a change.  Might have to go for a walk today.

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Beer Recipes / Re: Pliny the Toddler - starter needed?
« on: December 24, 2011, 08:55:27 PM »
We brew 1.048 or less often.  You can get by with a very fresh yeast package (did I say very fresh?), but I make starters out of practice.  Going to do a 1.048 beer on Monday, but that is a lager with 4 Liters of starter!

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Ingredients / Re: Weyermann Floor Malted Bohemian Pilsner Malt?
« on: December 24, 2011, 09:25:46 AM »
Even with a triple decoction, they don't seem to recommend a protein rest with this malt:

http://www.weyermann.de/downloads/pdf/Voigt_Poster_Trends%20in%20Brewing%20Ghent%202010.pdf
An average Kolbach Index of 38.4% is given, which isn't undermodified enough to require a protein rest.

As a follow up, was looking at the mashing chapter in New Brewing Lager Beers and Noonan stated that anything over 37 does not require a protein rest. Thanks for the info, will make the day shorter.

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Ingredients / Re: Best Pils Malt Questions
« on: December 22, 2011, 03:21:25 PM »
Just ordered a sack of Best today.  It better make award winning beer or I'm blaming all of you!!  ;D

So much has been said in favor of this Pils malt, I had to buy enough for a PIls.  Haven't used it yet, but am looking forward to it.  If it comes out to our liking, then it is time for a sack to, you know, add to the collection.  The malt addiction is almost as bad as the hop addiction.

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Ingredients / Re: help me choose hops
« on: December 22, 2011, 03:18:14 PM »
Must say that I don't mind Fuggles.  EKG is the one I like the best. 

I use a whole bunch of Styrian Goldings, which is Fuggles grown in Slovenia.  That does not bring "earthy" to mind when I drink a beer with that.

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The Pub / Re: Season's Greetings......
« on: December 22, 2011, 10:47:02 AM »
Down here at 19⁰ north lattitude the sunset is at around 5:45 for winter solstice and 7:10 for the summer solstice (we don't do daylight savings time here).  That's at sea level.  You can gain a few extra minutes by heading up to the summits of Mauna Loa and Mauna Kea.  They are almost 14,000 feet high.  (thats 4267m for you metric types)

According to the Mayan calendar we have started our last orbit.   :o

The Mayan calendar ends in 2012.  Our calendar ends on January December 31 (every year).   That was a massive brain fart.  :( 

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The Pub / Re: Season's Greetings......
« on: December 22, 2011, 10:23:03 AM »
We've made it around the bend.  The days are getting longer again.  I feel better already!

Ho Ho Ho!
Can one even notice the change in the days length there?  Just asking, never been that far south.

Yeah, 'made it around the bend' for Carl means instead of 11.8 hours of daylight, he can get back to the standard 11.9.

And where you live the swings are much more noticeable.  Lived at the 50 parallel (50.08), and the short winter days were made up for with the long days in summer.

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Ingredients / Re: help me choose hops
« on: December 22, 2011, 07:01:22 AM »
First Gold can give some apricot flavor and aroma.  Don't know the Sonnet hop, never used it.

I have a pound of the EKG ready to go, and some Willamette which is close to Fuggles.  Of the ones listed, I would order EKG and Fuggles to do classic recipes.
 
There are also some Progress, Challenger, Northdown, and Target pellets in the freezer.  Doing some of the English styles again.

 

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