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Equipment and Software / Re: Brewhemoth Brag
« on: December 19, 2011, 06:30:24 AM »
7psi = 16.2ft. of head
I guess there are fementors that large?  Maybe not in a small brewpub but I've seen some that look that tall.

There are ones that are much taller than that.  Don't know about the 800 barrel ones I have seen, but they are tall.
Don't know the size of the ones on the left, but you can get an idea.
http://www.muel.com/ProductDivisions/ProcessingSystems_Equipment/Beverage/Beer/FermentationTanks.cfm

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: I am new to lager
« on: December 16, 2011, 09:31:02 AM »
I need to listen to the Jamil show podcasts on lagers, thanks for reminding me.

Having done many lagers in the last several years, and trying to do 8 this year, I think they are more work, but not much more than for some big beers.  The brewdays can be longer if you do a decoction, or a multistep mash, 90 min boil, and it does take longer to get them down to pitching temps.  A pond pump and an ice bath are what I use for the last 30-40 degrees of chilling.

Why do I do lagers, I like them.  Nothing better than a good Pils in the Summer.  To paraphase a German saying "Pilsner is what God drinks on a Sunday afternoon in the Summer". 


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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Things Picking Up in the Carolinas
« on: December 16, 2011, 09:11:42 AM »
Got through the thread.

SN has also said that they know that beers they have bought in the Northeast and overnighted back to the brewery show signs that they are not in top condition.  If you can cut out some of the time in distribution, the beer will be fresher.  This is also a reason to have a brewery closer to the Eastern markets.

The water is not a big deal, as Carl says.  That part of NC has soft water to beging with.  They can adjust to what they want, for the beer they are brewing.  Saw the big pallets of gypsum bags when I was at beer camp, just saying.

They get the base malt from Canada by the multiple rail cars at a time.  Do you think there will be a rail spur/siding on site?  I do. 

The hops will be shipped in from the same sources.  They might need bigger contracts in the future.

Ken Grossman owns the company.  His kids are in line to run it, and both work there now.  There are plenty of great people to run the brewry in Chico when the new one is being built.  How many days a year do you guess Ken Grossman is on the road now?  I would say a large fraction of the year, and things run fine when he is out on business. 

One final thing on the SN quality.  If you saw the talk Ken Grossman gave at the Oakland NHC, the first batch they brewed was good, but they dumped the next 12 until they found out that the yeast needed more oxygen.  He said they were not bad, but not to the quality they wanted.  That is some dedication to quality.






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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Things Picking Up in the Carolinas
« on: December 16, 2011, 08:44:31 AM »
I guess it depends on how far it goes.  I just worry when breweries become macro in size that their products will be macro in quality.  It signifies a shift in how the business is operated, and it might not be for the better.  It might be awesome, but it already IS awesome, so in this case I fear change.

They talked quite a bit about this when I was at Beer Camp a month back.  There's no way they aren't going to grow, so you might as well get over that fear, Tom!  Thia is the most logical way for them to accomplish that.  It's lees expensive and more eco-friendly (in keeping with their philosophy) than shipping beer across the country.  Let's face it, SN is a business and as such wants/needs to keep growing.  Based on what I've learned about the company and their mindset, I'm much less worried about expansion from them than a company like, say, Ninkasi.

Have not read the whole thread, but this has been in the news for a while (East Coast Brewery).  At the NHC, Terence Sullivan was asked about it.  His response is "no decision, Ken's wife still has to decide".  What I read into that (this is my SWAG) is that she had input on where she was going to be living, as Ken would be there during the construction and start up. The SN quality ethic comes from Ken Grossman, so I am not worried.

New Belgium is also going to do another brewery in the Ashville area from what I read.

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Ingredients / Re: Hopfenkranz at the Viktualienmarket in Munich
« on: December 16, 2011, 08:27:41 AM »
My wife makes wreaths every years out of hops we don't harvest from the backyard.  Her's look good, but the ones in the pictures are really prime examples.  Almost all cones, which might explain the price tags, which are in Euros.  I will show these pictures to her.

When we lived in Germany, we were told having some hops hanging in the house is considered to bring your household good luck.

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Ingredients / Re: Hopping to Taste - Revisited
« on: December 16, 2011, 08:21:00 AM »
When the Krauesen forms, you will see a brown material initially.  This is the Braunhefe (brown yeast), which is very bitter stuff. Some of the bitterness falls out with the trub. 

What the wort's bitterness tastes like, and what the finished beer's bitterness tastes like are two different things in my experience.

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Beer Recipes / Re: Golden Promise in a wheat beer?
« on: December 16, 2011, 05:57:38 AM »
That should be a good beer, let us know how it all works together.

Golden Promise is a good base malt that I find to have a sweetness with the malt flavor.  The sweetness is more pronounced in Simpson's (~1.9L) , and less in Thomas Fawcett (2.5-3L).  

The Timothy Taylor Landlord clone I have been working on uses GP.  Really like what that brings to the final product.

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Beer Recipes / Re: Bell's Expedition Stout
« on: December 15, 2011, 07:45:22 PM »
The extract is in there to reflect the recipe that was being brewed at the time.  At the old brewery downtown, it was said that they could not mash enough grain to get the gravity, hence the extract to get there.  There are some local brewpubs that boost the gravity with extract in the boil for the big beers.

No idea how they make Expedition today - i.e. if they use extract at all.

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Beer Recipes / Re: Bell's Expedition Stout
« on: December 12, 2011, 05:58:10 PM »
Looks very familiar to what I brewed based on the Zymurgy article.  It was very good, lt was like Expedition.

Temp control is what would make it better for me today.  Also consider culturing the Bell's yest from some bottles of Amber or Pale Ale, to get the yeast profile going for you.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: How do yall buy grain?
« on: December 12, 2011, 04:25:44 PM »
How do y'all buy grain?  Usually with my credit card.

OK, in fact I buy bags of grain from the local shops in my area.  Specialty grains I will get 4-5 lbs. at a go so I have it on hand.  Unusual stuff I will get 1 lb. at a time.  There is enough in the garage to do the lager blitz that I am on, plus some big and stong ales.

The freezer is full of hops.  All set there.




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The Pub / Re: Another book thread
« on: December 12, 2011, 03:24:07 PM »
I highly recommend Jeff Sharra's Pulitzer Prize winning classic "The Killer Angels". Really well researched and succinct and highly factualized account of the battle at Gettysburg. His son, Michael Shaara writes in the same style, though a good bit more dry and hard to churn through. The Killer Angels is a page burner. One of my favorite books and sparked a keen interest in the Civil War for me.

This is what Ted Tunner based the "Gettyburg" TV movie on.  I agree that it was a good read.

That movie was from 1993!  Just looking at the cast, I saw that Ken Burns has a small role as Gen. Hancock's aide.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107007/fullcredits#cast

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Ingredients / Re: Hop quality question
« on: December 12, 2011, 03:16:02 PM »
Give them a rub and smell.  If they don't smell bad, use them.  If they are a little cheesy, toss them.  Reading the post, I was saying no problem at 2 years in vacuum, until I read the couple months in a ZipLoc.

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The Pub / Re: Bye, friend
« on: December 12, 2011, 03:12:18 PM »
You had to make a tough choice.  I feel for you.

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The Pub / Re: an irruptive year
« on: December 11, 2011, 08:07:43 PM »
Saw this map linked in an article about Snowy Owl sightings here in Michigan.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=204094329457575509162.0004b268568ba73710764

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The Pub / Re: Another book thread
« on: December 11, 2011, 07:04:36 PM »
Rereading "Notes From a Small Island" by Bill Bryson...nice humorous American account of a trip around the UK.  Finishing up the 1912 Luther translation of the Bible in German, occasionally reading a bit of "Nad: Understanding Raga Music" by Sandip Bagchee, and have been reading a lot of Wodehouse, particularly his very old stuff that is now public domain (and therefore on my iPhone).

Finished "Hops and Glory" by Pete Brown, who is called the Bill Bryson of beer writers on the cover notes.  I can see why, as his style is similar.  Have read most of Bryson's stuff, he is very entertaining.

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