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Ingredients / Re: a question about pickling lime v. chalk
« on: April 29, 2012, 05:33:14 AM »
Chalk does not dissolve readily. You can bubble CO2 through water and chalk to dissolve it. If you have a carbonator cap and a big plasitc drink bottle, you can fill about 3/4 full, add chalk, pressurise with 30 PSI and shake. If all the chalk does not dissolve, vent, add more pressure and shake again. And so on.

Pickling lime dissolves quickly. The OH ions combine with the H ions to form water. The other thing you add is Ca, which does not impact the flavor. I point this out due to the fact that some use baking soda, but that adds Na.




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Kegging and Bottling / Re: O2 Barrier caps... Really?
« on: April 29, 2012, 05:25:30 AM »
The standard caps go on the run of the mill beers that are not for aging. Big beers, cides and meads get the O2 barrier caps.

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Beer Recipes / Re: anyone have a Cider Recipe?
« on: April 29, 2012, 05:22:55 AM »
The first cider I made used juice from a local orchard that mainly has eating apples, and the cider is sweet and is to drink with the doughnuts. It was not such a good hard cider. One dimensional sums it up.

One of the guys in the club said he used juice from a mill near Howell, MI. This is a small family orchard, but they have many of the older heritage apples. A couple I can remember off the top of my head are Baldwins and Arkansas Blacks. That made a much better cider.

Our club now has a good relationship with the owners. We have done 3 cider pressing days with them over the last 3 years. This year we did 5 differnet blends, for >300 gallons of juice. The orchard uses apples that they can't sell over the counter due to blemishes, small size, or lack of demand for an obscure variety, so they get to use those apples. It is a fun day that many of us look forward to.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 1st round NHC results
« on: April 29, 2012, 05:10:32 AM »
The AHA is experiencing some "growing pains".

There are limits to the number of competition entries due to the available resources (judges and staffing). 
The judging centers are mostly in production breweries. The 750 beers are stored in the cold room for the time they are dropped off to the judging day. That takes up valuable space in the brewery that could be used for product.  Our little 300 beer comp was allowed the area of one pallet for the entries last year. Just another limitation on running a competition. Thanks should go to all of the breweries that allow the time, space and involvement for the Nationals.

 

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Zymurgy / Re: "New Rules of Brewing Water" - Same as the old rules?
« on: April 28, 2012, 03:22:03 PM »
Where does it say in the article to stick the pH meter into the mash? It just states the range where the mash works best at mash temps.

I think howtobrew is the place I first read about the correction factor, where the meter reading at room temperature is 0.25 to 0.3 higher than the actual pH in the mash.

Without reading the later chapters, what can you say about instructions on how to use a pH meter?  There may be instructions on taking sample and cooling.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 1st round NHC results
« on: April 28, 2012, 03:15:13 PM »
I like the price increasing with the number of entries.  If one is serious, then they could go for it. Ones that are not so serious would back off the number of entries.


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Beer Recipes / Re: anyone have a Cider Recipe?
« on: April 28, 2012, 03:11:55 PM »
First you get a good juice with a blend of apples.

Add yeast. Or not, if you want the wild yeast to do their thing.

Wait.

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Zymurgy / Re: Why should I renew my subscription?
« on: April 28, 2012, 07:57:38 AM »
There are enough benefits that I consider the membership fee paying for itself. All the ones mentioned above, plus the discounts on new books.

As far as BYO vs Zymurgy, it depends on the month which I like better.  The articles are often from the same pool of authors.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 1st round NHC results
« on: April 27, 2012, 03:50:21 PM »
"They have a thankless task."

Yes, this is the best way to put it.  Anyone who blames the AHA for not being able to enter, or go to the conference, needs to step back, take a deep breath and say - RDWHAHB!

Not so long ago the AHA had a dip in membership. The Conference had a dip in numbers. In many ways that was a much bigger problem.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 1st round NHC results
« on: April 27, 2012, 02:38:24 PM »
If some person new to the hobby in the last year decided to enter and the entries were closed, then I might have some sympathy.

If someone has been in the hobby and entered before, saw the first regional center fill up 2 years back, then rule changes were made to accomadate those that got shut out.  Then all of the center fill up last year (no longer regions) and 10th region added this year to allow for more entries was the change taken by the committee. Then this years competition fills up in about 2+ days..  If anyone was surprised by this after the conference sold out in 2 days, then they have not been paying attention.

 

I don't think the AHA was "not paying attention" and thus allowed the competition to exlude lots of brewers and unfold they way it did. I think the AHA did its best to accomadate as many brews as they could. If they knew this chaos of anger and exclusion would ensue I'm sure they would have taken steps to remedy the situation before it could begin. It clearly can't be conducted in the same manner as before, and the AHA was definitely paying attention and not to blame.

This was not directed at the AHA, but at anyone that had the feeling of anger and exclusion that you mentioned. If they were asleep at the switch when the conference or competition filled up - sorry, there is always next year.

  The AHA has been taking the steps I outlined above. No one, and I mean no one, would have predicted the year to year explosive growth the hobby has been seeing a few years back.  Dealing with growth of this magnitude is hard.

I know several of the GC members, they have been working hard over the last few years to improve the competition and the conference.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: To our Governing Committee
« on: April 27, 2012, 02:31:34 PM »
Entering the most beers possible is not the purpose of the competition.  At least, not as I understand it.

I would say the Ninkasi Award certainly flies in the face of this.

Except that competition for the Ninkasi Award is not impacted by a limit on entries.  Such a limit may actually serve to increase the competitive field for the Ninkasi.

Edit: But I can certainly see where someone would submit as many beers as possible to chase the award.  So you make a good point.
You need to know that the tie breaker has to do with the number of first round beers that advance (don't know if it is weighted by 1,2,3- Janis does). The tie breaker has been used at least twice in my memory, including last year. There is the incentive to have more in the first round - the possibiltiy of more advancing to 2nd round.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 1st round NHC results
« on: April 27, 2012, 12:53:14 PM »
If some person new to the hobby in the last year decided to enter and the entries were closed, then I might have some sympathy.

If someone has been in the hobby and entered before, saw the first regional center fill up 2 years back, then rule changes were made to accomadate those that got shut out.  Then all of the center fill up last year (no longer regions) and 10th region added this year to allow for more entries was the change taken by the committee. Then this years competition fills up in about 2+ days..  If anyone was surprised by this after the conference sold out in 2 days, then they have not been paying attention.

Part of this situation is that they hobby has been growing faster than the judge pool.  The changes in the BJCP testing should help to grow the pool of judges.  If you are not BJCP, time to think about taking the test and becoming part of the solution. To back that line up of thinking , I wrote the exam last year, am now BJCP Certified (dang hard, had not taken a test like that since Nixon was in office), and helped judge at Indianapolis.

Yes, you get lunch, and have a chance to talk to others you know from online forums.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 1st round NHC results
« on: April 27, 2012, 11:57:07 AM »
If someone had the time, organization, and money to brew and enter 70 beers, my hat is off to them.

The way to eliminate this behavior is to eliminate the Ninkasi award.  The possibillity of that happening can be found at notgonnahappen.com. 

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 1st round NHC results
« on: April 27, 2012, 11:46:29 AM »



I hope that guy won something, it's almost 5% of the total entries for the region!

I heard there was a dude in texas that entered there with 70+ entries!

OK governing board, if this is true, we need to do something about this.  Many people were unable to enter.  If one guy can 10% of the entries for one region, something is clearly wrong.

There can be something wrong if it is against the rules. Please show where it is against the rules and I will then agree that something is wrong.

There were that legandary story in the past of a guy who entered all subcatigories, beer, mead, and cider.  It that happened - I don't know if it is true - there was nothing wrong with it then, not now unless the rules say it is not.

Campaign for a rule change if you wish.

Edit - Just saw your new thread.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Tell me about Mash Hopping
« on: April 27, 2012, 04:47:35 AM »
I'd say it's a West coast mindset on hops, but he (Smith) is from Minnesota, so I guess it is just a hophead's mindset.....

I think he lives in Oakland, CA. I certainly see him at a lot of local beer events...
Yes, he is a member of DOZE, which is an east Bay Area club.

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