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The Pub / Re: Good deal on Zymatic
« on: May 02, 2017, 06:34:32 PM »
This is an interesting tidbit from the Picobrew.com FAQ on the Pico.

"We will have a "Pico Simulator" and adapter shortly that will allow you to brew PicoPaks on your Zymatic without a Pico unit as well."

Source: https://www.picobrew.com/About/PicoFAQ.cshtml
Question: I own a Zymatic. Can I author PicoPaks?

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Beer Recipes / American Amber...Red Seal
« on: May 02, 2017, 02:28:18 PM »
I have never had Red Seal.

Regarding the Amber that was more like Brown Ale. I would drop the chocolate malt and replace with Carafa Special 3. The Carafa gives color with a lot more mellow flavor. I also like carared. It helps with red color if your into that.

I like an amber that has a sweet finish. I am pretty liberal with the caramel malt. 10-15% of the bill.

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The Pub / Good deal on Zymatic
« on: May 02, 2017, 10:58:43 AM »
I fill in the grist and hops in the basic, tell it I'm doing the high efficiency multi step and switch to advanced. 

Can you set up any mash schedule you want or is it a choice between a single temp. or the high efficiency multi step (which per the manual looks like it is a set program that can't be altered)?
The advanced recipe editor allows very flexible mash schedules. This thread has some examples from Annie.

https://picobrew.com/forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=130

And this thread has instructions for the advanced recipe editor.

https://picobrew.com/forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=39

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The Pub / Re: Good deal on Zymatic
« on: May 02, 2017, 10:05:18 AM »
Do you guys just ferment in the corny keg with all the trub and break material or do you rack to a different fermentor?

When calculating volumes, what do you estimate for grain absorption and boil off?

If I want to end up with 2.75 or 3 gallons of wort so that I can transfer a full 2.5 gallons of clear wort to a different fermentor (leaving some trub behind), is that possible or are you truly limited to 2.5 gallons of post-boil wort?

What is the point of the spindle on the top with the felt washer you are supposed to add anti-foam to?  Does the wort actually get foamy enough to fill the whole keg and bubble up into that thing?

Sorry for all the questions.  I've got 10 days to decide if I want to cancel my pledge or not. 

I'd recommend figuring out how to use the 'advaced" software now because that was the hardest thing for me. It's actually very simple bu since you can access the manual and the recipe software on line it makes sense to go ahead and have it figured out  before the machine arrives.

I can't figure out how to access it, even though I set up an account.  I wonder if you need to actually register the unit first.

For instance, he filled me in on the fact that it takes 5 min. to circulate all the wort through the unit, so what would be a 1 min. hop addition on your "normal" system is a 5 min. addition on the Z. 
Wow. That's interesting.

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The Pub / Re: Good deal on Zymatic
« on: May 02, 2017, 08:56:01 AM »
Okay. So then I guess the recipe crafter is accurate even when doing custom step mashes via the advanced recipe crafter? When you do custom step mashes do you tell the basic recipe crafter you are doing single infusion or high efficiency mash? Or maybe the recipe crafter takes your step mash into account when predicting OG?


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The Pub / Re: Good deal on Zymatic
« on: May 02, 2017, 07:30:56 AM »
What kind of efficiency range do you guys get with the Zymatic? If you answer, can you please also say what mash profile you are using?


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The Pub / Good deal on Zymatic
« on: May 01, 2017, 04:14:04 PM »
Nice score Tommy. I look forward to hearing how you like it. I'm still in the Cheap and Easy camp.


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Cheap and easy is my biggest debate. My wife is lobbying that one of my favorite parts of brewing is disappearing in the basement for 4 hours. She thinks the Zymatic violates that principal.

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The Pub / Re: Good deal on Zymatic
« on: April 30, 2017, 11:16:41 AM »
Hey Tommy, congrats on your purchase I think you'll love it.

Since you will be brewing in a keg you may want one of these: https://jadedbrewing.com/collections/frontpage/products/the-cornypillar

Also, the one big improvement I have made is to take the keg/kettle off the Zymatic during the chilling process. The Zymatic will recirc the wort until you hit your target chilling temp, which is nice, but it foams like crazy. I just pull the keg off, use the chiller I linked, and use my diffusion stone to aerate. The other ncie thing about doing it this way is you can go ahead and knock out the clean up while the wrot is being chilled otherwise you'll have to do it after the chilling is finished.

I'd recommend figuring out how to use the 'advaced" software now because that was the hardest thing for me. It's actually very simple bu since you can access the manual and the recipe software on line it makes sense to go ahead and have it figured out  before the machine arrives.

I agree on all counts.  I was able to chill my last batch to pitching temp in 4 min. with the Corny Pillar.  I also don't wait for the whole recirc/chill process on the Z.  Once the boil is done, I stop it, run a drain cycle, and chill the corny.  I don't worry about aeration since it's such a small batch.  And FTR, the advanced software is being rewritten to make it easier to use.
I was thinking of disconnecting from the Z after boil, putting the keg in my chest freezer set to pitch temp, and then come back in a few hours to pitch. Not sure if that will cause foaming or not. But, it should chill pretty fast through the stainless.

Thoughts?

That will work fine.  I did it before I got the Corny Pillar.  The Pillar just lets me get it all out of the way sooner.
The corny pillar does look pretty awesome.

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The Pub / Re: Good deal on Zymatic
« on: April 30, 2017, 10:59:35 AM »
Hey Tommy, congrats on your purchase I think you'll love it.

Since you will be brewing in a keg you may want one of these: https://jadedbrewing.com/collections/frontpage/products/the-cornypillar

Also, the one big improvement I have made is to take the keg/kettle off the Zymatic during the chilling process. The Zymatic will recirc the wort until you hit your target chilling temp, which is nice, but it foams like crazy. I just pull the keg off, use the chiller I linked, and use my diffusion stone to aerate. The other ncie thing about doing it this way is you can go ahead and knock out the clean up while the wrot is being chilled otherwise you'll have to do it after the chilling is finished.

I'd recommend figuring out how to use the 'advaced" software now because that was the hardest thing for me. It's actually very simple bu since you can access the manual and the recipe software on line it makes sense to go ahead and have it figured out  before the machine arrives.

I agree on all counts.  I was able to chill my last batch to pitching temp in 4 min. with the Corny Pillar.  I also don't wait for the whole recirc/chill process on the Z.  Once the boil is done, I stop it, run a drain cycle, and chill the corny.  I don't worry about aeration since it's such a small batch.  And FTR, the advanced software is being rewritten to make it easier to use.
I was thinking of disconnecting from the Z after boil, putting the keg in my chest freezer set to pitch temp, and then come back in a few hours to pitch. Not sure if that will cause foaming or not. But, it should chill pretty fast through the stainless.

Thoughts?


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The Pub / Re: Good deal on Zymatic
« on: April 30, 2017, 08:42:26 AM »
Used my Zymatic 4 times last week and planning on using it at least that much this coming week. It is so easy to use I am starting to get in the habit of using it almost every day or until I run out of fermentors.
Sidebar question: if you make lots of one off beers with the Z do you have to register the recipe with the government? Or can you just make one offs and sell them in the tap room without much government hassle?

Just curious.

As a homebrewer, making 4 Z batches per week would quickly run afoul of Alabama law which limits my production to 15 gallons per quarter. :)

LOL Alabama law. Sorry not going to let any government dictate how much I can brew at home. I brewed illegally for years and years before I even knew it was illegal here in Alabama. I was not aware that there is a 15 gallon per quarter rule but there is no way in hell I would let that slow my brewing down.

But, yes, we have to register any beer we brew that we intend to sell with the ABC. Not the feds though. We just have to track what we produce so we pay taxes on it. Technically we only have to have formula approval from the Feds if we are selling out of state. But for any beer we intend on packaging and shipping out of tap room we go ahead and do the footwork and have everything approved by TTB (also, we are in 2 states now so thatr only makes sense.)

As far as business goes we play it 100% by the book as close as possible. But I would never let a stupid law dictate how much beer I can brew at my house. That's ridiculous.
I don't really care about the Alabama law. I don't think Alabama really cares how much I brew.

I think brew under the limit anyway. I take a few growlers to parties, and have friends over sometimes, but, otherwise it's just me drinking.

Sorry, I got a little chippy there. Over reaching laws like that just really raise my hackles.

Anyway ... Keep in mind the Zymatic only makes 2.5 gallons at a time. At first I thought that was a hindrance but now I look at it as a nice size batch. If you want to brew 5 gallons you can just brew 2 back to back batches.
I think the beer industry is a case study in wealthy companies using regulation to limit competition. It makes me mad too.

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The Pub / Re: Good deal on Zymatic
« on: April 30, 2017, 08:28:06 AM »
It might be a good deal, but is still too rich for my blood. Heck I spent less than that on the last car I bought.
 :D
I'm cheap too, but, that's impressively cheap.

I must admit that it was a long time ago. I haven't owned a car in quite a few years. I take public transportation most of the time and borrow my daughter's car when I have to drive somewhere.
That's great. Southern cities really aren't setup for public transportation.

I don't qualify as cheap anymore. I ordered the Zymatic. $1379 shipped with full warranty and all the bells and whistles seems like a deal that won't come around again soon.

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The Pub / Re: Good deal on Zymatic
« on: April 29, 2017, 03:33:45 PM »
Used my Zymatic 4 times last week and planning on using it at least that much this coming week. It is so easy to use I am starting to get in the habit of using it almost every day or until I run out of fermentors.
Sidebar question: if you make lots of one off beers with the Z do you have to register the recipe with the government? Or can you just make one offs and sell them in the tap room without much government hassle?

Just curious.

As a homebrewer, making 4 Z batches per week would quickly run afoul of Alabama law which limits my production to 15 gallons per quarter. :)

LOL Alabama law. Sorry not going to let any government dictate how much I can brew at home. I brewed illegally for years and years before I even knew it was illegal here in Alabama. I was not aware that there is a 15 gallon per quarter rule but there is no way in hell I would let that slow my brewing down.

But, yes, we have to register any beer we brew that we intend to sell with the ABC. Not the feds though. We just have to track what we produce so we pay taxes on it. Technically we only have to have formula approval from the Feds if we are selling out of state. But for any beer we intend on packaging and shipping out of tap room we go ahead and do the footwork and have everything approved by TTB (also, we are in 2 states now so thatr only makes sense.)

As far as business goes we play it 100% by the book as close as possible. But I would never let a stupid law dictate how much beer I can brew at my house. That's ridiculous.
I don't really care about the Alabama law. I don't think Alabama really cares how much I brew.

I think brew under the limit anyway. I take a few growlers to parties, and have friends over sometimes, but, otherwise it's just me drinking.

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The Pub / Re: Good deal on Zymatic
« on: April 29, 2017, 02:58:52 PM »
Used my Zymatic 4 times last week and planning on using it at least that much this coming week. It is so easy to use I am starting to get in the habit of using it almost every day or until I run out of fermentors.
Sidebar question: if you make lots of one off beers with the Z do you have to register the recipe with the government? Or can you just make one offs and sell them in the tap room without much government hassle?

Just curious.

As a homebrewer, making 4 Z batches per week would quickly run afoul of Alabama law which limits my production to 15 gallons per quarter. :)

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: kolsch observations
« on: April 29, 2017, 10:17:34 AM »
I just tapped a Magnum, Crystal Kölsch yesterday. Delicious.

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The Pub / Re: Good deal on Zymatic
« on: April 29, 2017, 09:40:52 AM »
It might be a good deal, but is still too rich for my blood. Heck I spent less than that on the last car I bought.
 :D
I'm cheap too, but, that's impressively cheap.

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