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All Grain Brewing / Re: Momentary Lapse of Reason...
« on: August 29, 2015, 10:01:20 AM »
It will be completely beer sanitary. Sometimes we way, way, way over-worry about sanitation. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. But stuff like bottled water is sanitary enough for beer, no problem. Things like aluminum foil, plastic bags, paper towels, bottled water are all sanitary enough for clean beer fermentation.
Ever since Denny claimed that foil fresh off the roll is good to go, ive trusted that. But just to be safe I spritz with starsan lol

Yeah I always squirt it with starsan and give it a couple of minutes of contact before using it.

I still don't.  After 13 years, no problems.

Same here.  Using foil right off of the roll is perfectly safe.  And with regard to bottled waters (whether distilled, spring, or purified), I believe that most bottled waters nowadays probably get a UV treatment at bottling, the way many of the better non-heat pasteurized farm ciders do.   I've only topped up with bottled water very infrequently, but whether  it is UV treated or not, it has never posed a problem or caused infection.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: What qualifies as "Real Ale"?
« on: August 29, 2015, 09:52:05 AM »
....I do not believe real ale requires use of ingredients from England or any other part of the British Isles or to be brewed there
... The big issue for homebrewers is usually whether CO2 is artificially introduced to carbonate or serve the beer. CAMRA opposes even the CO2 breathers on casks because it interferes with the natural oxidation that otherwise occurs in a cask...
Absolutely orrect with regard to the ingredients.  British brewers have been using American hops (and even American malts)  since the 19th century.  Also, sugars of various types are definitely not a taboo (it can be argued that some truly authentic Brit style ales actually require them)

The co2 issue is a tricky one.  Real Ale should certainly not be overcarbonated (like most American beer and ale is) but where CAMRA's definition loses me is the requirement of allowing air into the cask as opposed to a protective blanket of inert gas, and if you've ever been to England and experienced the difference in quality of Real Ale at various pubs, it becomes obvious that the disallowance of a blanket of co2 or nitrogen is a big mistake.   Allowing air to displace the liquid in the cask as it empties is fine, just so  long as the the turnover in a busy pub  allows a cask to be emptied within a day or two.  Beyond that, exposure to air is definitely detrimental to the beer.  When I was in the UK, I had some really incredibly fine Real Ale...and on the other side of the coin just as much that ranged from "tasting a bit off" to being virtually unpalatable (kind of like the state of "craft" beer in the USA, which is also becoming a bit of a crap shoot nowadays.  LOL)

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Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Things you wish breweries would figure out
« on: August 18, 2015, 08:29:56 AM »
Five different IPA's in the tap room isn't really a variety.
A very good point  along with a number of others in this thread.  I love IPA, but most of them taste and look cloudy and amateurish (and I have a quiet chuckle every time I hear the nonsensical excuse that "IPA is supposed to look that way").

With regard to brewer salaries, in speaking to people I know or have known in the commercial brewing world over the years it is clear that there is quite a wide range.  It depends on a lot of things:  how committed to quality the owner is, the size of the operation, how much business the brewery is doing, and of course, how much the brewer is willing to accept..  I've heard of talented head brewers with a good, specifically focused total brewing education and a proven track record making at least $60k/year...but  brewers working under the head brewer will generally rarely come even close to that kind of salary for two reasons:  1)  they are the "line cooks" of the brewing world and 2)  (based on what I've been told more than once) they are a 'dime a dozen'.

One of the things that a lot of breweries need to figure out (especially the new breed of small, "local" ones) is that rushing product out the door using the 'freshness' hype spin actually often results in clearly sub-par product.  Of course, aside from the impatience factor that is often a holdover from the homebrewing roots of many of the small, local startups,  proper aging/storage is certainly a problem for the new breed of small brewers because time is money; they generally need to turn product around quickly.
Here in NJ there have been quite a few new small breweries popping up and most of them are serving beers that taste like they were brewed last week (and that's not a compliment).

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: No head retention in lagers
« on: August 03, 2015, 04:16:54 AM »
Excessive aging and contact with autolyzed yeast could also be a factor.

Perhaps oxidation could be contributing to a lack of foam?

In any case, I wouldn't blame aging, necessarily.  I can't speak with regard to lagers specifically since while I love them, I rarely brew them...but my  IPA, Porter, and Barleywine/Burton which I brew a lot of and all of which get an average of 8-12 months aging at minimum (and in some cases far longer)  tend to pour pretty consistently with very long lasting heads of foam that leave a generous, clinging  lacing on the glass.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: BJCP catagory for pilsner ale
« on: July 22, 2015, 06:54:39 AM »
I always need help categorizing my beers. Everyone always tells me to enter it as what it tastes like. So, what does it taste like? Even with ale yeast, it could come across as a pilsner depending on the yeast strain, its fermentation and storage profiles...

Precisely...just enter it as whatever it most tastes like. That is. after all, the most important parameter and, in the end, the only one that really matters at all.
I've tasted lager beers made with ale yeast that actually tasted more authentically  'lager-like' than some which were made with actual lager yeast.  As suggested by others in this thread, there are factors at play in the flavor profile of a beer other than the type of yeast (or other ingredients) used.

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Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Stone Pale Ale 2.0
« on: June 23, 2015, 03:32:52 PM »
It's puzzling to me.  Like skylar, I'm not a particularly big fan of Stone's brews (and speaking for myself, don't really understand the hype surrounding the brewery) but I will say that they had a reasonably decent product with their Pale Ale...so I do have to wonder what compelled them to change it.  Has an official explanation ever been offered?

When ever I see an established product touting the words "improved", the vast majority of the time it turns out to be anything but.  More often than not the words "new and improved" could more accurately be characterized as a consumer warning.
The old saying is, "if it ain't broke, don't fixit". 
I guess they thought that their Pale Ale was 'broke".   ::)

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Events / Re: 2015 NHC Impressions
« on: June 15, 2015, 11:23:57 AM »
I was there in spirit. I kept a watchful eye on the forums. Next year is east coast and I will have to make it.

Same here.  Next year's is a very do-able drive for me, so if I'm not on tour or working on the left coast, I fully expect to be able to make 2016 and meet a lot of the folks I've enjoyed reading, comparing notes with, and (open minded old dog that I am) learning from.
 ;D

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Green Beers
« on: June 05, 2015, 05:57:24 PM »
Personally, I prefer taste over historical accuracy. So, I would take which ever route tastes best. Of course, if you are submitting to a contest or if you want to drink your beer as the bourgeoisie or proletariat did, you should age accordingly.
I also prefer taste over historical accuracy. My main goal for my question was that I have seen Mr. Professor post about currently aging his IPAS for extended period as in a year I believe he said. I was just curious how that turns out, or what he does differently than most to ensure that it turns out great. My real search is to brew an IPA that I like or love fresh that still tastes great or has great aroma for longer than say the first 2 months after bottling
You make a good point.  For me, the taste of an aged IPA is what I like, tradition totally aside...probably because the IPA I drank a lot of in the late '60s/early-mid '70s despite it's fairly high price  (Ballantine India Pale) was aged for a full year before packaging and the resulting 70+ IBU bitterness was intense, but very crisp and clean.  The aroma of that IPA was also intense, very probably more intense than the 'authentic'  IPAs of the 1800's  since near the end of the 1 year bulk maturation, Ballantine dry hopped the product and at bottling, very generously dosed it with house-made aromatic fraction distilled hop oil. My source for that info is a series of chats with former Ballantine employees in the early '80s (which was around ten years after the Ballantine plant closed for good),  If you have a bottle of the new Sierra Nevada Hop Hunter IPA handy (or better still, poured on draft), take a whiff of it and the imagine that hop aroma times three...and that will give you some idea of what the aroma of the original Ballantine IPA was like (the recently released re-creation, while quite good, lacks both the intense aroma and the long aged character of the original).
In any case, that's what prompted me to age my own home brewed IPA for 6-12 months on average, and that's how I've done it since the early-mid 1980s.  The real trick (and not always an easy one) is brewing it often enough to allow that kind of aging.   ;D

(late edits to clarify and correct spelling & grammar)

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Green Beers
« on: June 05, 2015, 05:41:56 PM »
The aging of traditional Brit IPAs was not to gain some benefit, it was the nature of transportation by ship.

^^This^^
True to some degree...but the fact is that in those days, many ales and most porters were intentionally and routinely long aged to benefit flavor, even for domestic use.

I'm curious enough about this to ask for your source.
I thought it was pretty well known that in the 18th & 19th centuries especially, well aged beers/ales/porters were generally considered to be superior and premium products (and priced accordingly).  Old Ale or Burton Ale (arguably essentially the same as what came to be called Barleywine when Bass coined the term at the turn of the 20th century)  and vatted Porter are prime examples.  The Porter brewers especially brewed and bulk aged their products in huge quantities and aged them in enormous vessels for a year or even  longer.

There has been quite a bit written about this, there are lots of sources to search but it has certainly been covered quite well (and probably best)  by both Martyn Cornell and Ron Pattinson (both very dedicated and gifted researchers in addition to being two of the  brewing world's best  "mythbusters"), as referenced by others who responded to your query.
Cornell's writings about India Pale Ale are particularly compelling reading (and rather surprising).



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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Green Beers
« on: June 05, 2015, 08:03:34 AM »
The aging of traditional Brit IPAs was not to gain some benefit, it was the nature of transportation by ship.

^^This^^
True to some degree...but the fact is that in those days, many ales and most porters were intentionally and routinely long aged to benefit flavor, even for domestic use.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Green Beers
« on: June 04, 2015, 06:48:44 PM »
It has been my understanding that IPAs should be drank fresh....

Not all IPAs.  Traditionally, IPA was a long aged style (even American ones well into the 1960s-70s). 

It's only in comparatively recent years that IPA has been commonly sold and consumed very young.  Drinkers these days do seem to enjoy the young, green hop flavors common to the current wave of American IPAs...and this is a fortunate thing for brewers that don't have the desire or available storage to facilitate the traditional aging that defines the original style.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: State of home-brewing
« on: May 26, 2015, 08:31:41 AM »
When I recently told a friend of mine that I started homebrewing last year the first question he asked was how long it took to get to the final product. I told him, "It depends. For an entry level homebrewer who is still bottling (me) and maybe waiting a bit longer for their beer to clean up in a fermentor because they don't have the most excellent temperature control (also me, still) - you're probably looking at a month to six weeks before you crack open that beer. For a more advanced brewer, brewing beer that should be consumed 'young' and throwing it in a keg - you could probably go grain to glass in as little as two weeks." He told me that there's no way he has the patience for either of those scenarios. Clearly notthe hobby for everyone. Glad I didn't tell him about sours or brett beer.

I remember feeling that way when I first started. But now that I have a nice rotation going I always have a brew I am drinking while my new brew is fermenting.
I don't drink anything I've made  until it has had at least 6 to 8 weeks of aging on it (even my most 'standard' ales) and my IPA and Porter age for a full year before I tap them (in keeping with the tradition of those styles).  My Burton/Old Ale/Barleywine ages for even longer than that.
It's really not all that difficult, it just takes some planning.  But  I almost always have a good supply of properly aged beer on hand. 
Funny thing is, I'm probably more careful and diligent about proper aging than most craft breweries tend to be these days.

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Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Busch Copper Lager
« on: May 22, 2015, 04:19:02 PM »
I have a feeling in the not so distant future craft beer is just going to be called "beer"

I certainly hope so.  I honestly do believe that is exactly where it is headed...it may take a while but I'd make book on it.

Craft beer sounds a lot better than microbrew. I think craft comes from craftsman which is similar to artisan.

Except that it's craftsman responsible for making the BMC stuff too (albeit as work for hire). 
Besides which, brewing in general is a craft in and of itself.
I really do think artisan says it better, and is more suggestive of smaller scale.

Of course, as I have said in the past, "...homebrew is the craftiest beer of all."

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Pimp My System / Re: Mill Prototype
« on: May 22, 2015, 07:57:31 AM »

Dude...WOW.
That's pretty damned impressive!   You've taken DIY homebrew kit to a whole new level.
Really, really nice.

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Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Old standards in cheap beer?
« on: May 22, 2015, 07:54:18 AM »
I've always said how easy it would be to make a mass 'merican lager with a little bit of flavor that would appeal across the market.

I agree.
I agree as well.  Michelob has all along been a very good American lager for the price, and it got even better when they went back to 'all malt' 7 or 8 years ago.  To bad it's not more widely available on draft;  in my Dad's day, it was actually a draft only product and I remember him talking about he and his co-workers from Lockheed going to the Newark NJ AB brewery for lunch, with came with glasses of really fresh Michelob.
Interestingly, industry reports indicate that the production of Michelob in general is something like only  1/3 of it was just 20 years ago!

I still pick up a sixer of it every now and again, and still marvel at how well made it is considering it's BMC status. If it had just a touch more hop character (as I'm suspecting it may have had at one time), it would be pretty near perfect.

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