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All Grain Brewing / Re: Bittering with chinook question
« on: May 14, 2016, 12:02:40 PM »
In theory I know the answer to this but wanted some experienced advice.

I usually use magnum for bittering addition for my IPAs.  I wanted to try bittering with chinook this time and wondering what the difference will be everything else being equal.  Specifically, will there be any taste difference (increased pine?) or just a different (less mellow) bitter.


+1.  Magnum gives a smooth, pretty neutral bitterness where Chinook gives a more coarse IPA-like bitterness. I bitter IPAs with either Chinook or Columbus.

Same with me... Especially Columbus. I actually never buy magnum. I'll use warrior for neutral bittering. I also use nugget in most porters and stouts.

Beer Recipes / Re: Habanero/Mango Pale Ale
« on: May 12, 2016, 05:40:09 AM »
I was worried about sanitizing the fruit and habanero before adding it to the secondary.  What I plan to do then is cut up a habanero and let it sit in vodka for an hour.  then put it in the secondary. With the mangoes, I was going to cube them up, put them in the freezer for at least a day.  Then , using a juicer on the cubes to get the juice.  Then add the juice to the secondary. rack the beer ontop of the juice.  Then added the habanero 3 days or so before bottling

why not make your juice, boil for sanitation, then cool covered and add the juice to your secondary?  Seems to me you are getting further from being sanitary while complicating your day.  Not that your day matters much to me, but that's not going to get you a sanitary juice in the end.
Boiling juice almost always changes its flavor, and not typically for the better. I'm not sure how much pectin is in mangoes, but it will set a pectin haze as well. I wouldn't want to boil the juice, and I honestly don't think there's a need.

Pasteurization is the route to take
180F then immediately cool
or I think you can do something crazy like 135F/30mins which would save him A CRAP LOAD of time vs a day.

Although taking the cubed, frozen, juiced mangos pitched directly into the secondary is better than the negatives of caramelized flavors from his juice? He wasn't proposing a sanitary process of putting mango juice in his hard earned product, why spoil it now, or take the risk?  Nope lets worry about pectin haze... ? I don't get it.

There's really no need to sanitize the fruit when adding it to the secondary. Your pH is low enough and alcohol content is present that you don't need to worry about bacterial growth. I'm pretty sure that pasteurizing fruit isn't going to shorten a brew day at all. I toss the fruit into a paint strainer bag, tie it off, and call it a day. No need for all of that other extra non-sense. I freeze and thaw the fruit, not for sanitary reasons, but to break up the fruit membranes. If you're going to juice it, I'm not sure that I'd even freeze and thaw. If you are to just add cubed fruit, make sure that you put it in some sort of strainer bag and save yourself a headache.

I'd be concerned about changing the flavor profile of the fruit too when heating it up. I'd be afraid that it would get caramelized to some extent.

Ingredients / Re: interesting hop to pair with cascade
« on: May 11, 2016, 03:40:34 PM »
I have an IPA on tap right now with Equinox and it is very nice. I think it would go nicely with Cascade. It is becoming my favorite of all of the newer hop varieties lately.

Yep, good stuff.

Yep. Equinox is very nice new hop that is citrusy and dank/resinous at the same time in contrast to the newer fruit bombs. It's super powerful though. If I were to pair it with cascade alone, I would go with a 3:1 or 4:1 ratio of cascade:Equinox if you don't want the cascade to be buried.

Ingredients / Re: interesting hop to pair with cascade
« on: May 11, 2016, 03:37:49 PM »

I'll be kegging a galaxy and cascade pale ale later tonight. So far tastings of young beer have been great.

I love Galaxy. Galaxy and Citra are my favorite combo, but I like it with cascade too.

All Grain Brewing / Re: Drying out my IPA grain bill question.
« on: May 11, 2016, 03:29:07 PM »
I don't usually add dextrose until I'm close to 1.080. I don't think you need it in the 1.060-1.065 range. Honestly, I like your original bill better. I find the carapils to be a waste. I go from anywhere from 5-8% light Munich and 5ish% C40.

Are you doing anything with water chemistry? The more sulfates in the beer, the drier the beer will get. If you are not into chemistry, I suggest start investigating Bru'n water. It looks overwhelming at first, but easy peasy. In the meantime, I'd start adding a teaspoon of gypsum to the kettle for your IPA's.

And of course... More hops  ;D

Ingredients / Re: interesting hop to pair with cascade
« on: May 10, 2016, 08:09:32 AM »

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Fast Pitch
« on: May 10, 2016, 06:39:23 AM »
Can someone explain to me the graphic on the cans? Is that a mucus octopus???

That's Hawker.... the Fast Pitch mascot lol

Actually, I have no idea what it is.

Beer Recipes / Re: Habanero/Mango Pale Ale
« on: May 10, 2016, 04:06:50 AM »
I also saw that you started another thread about a similar beer. I've actually redesigned this recipe a bit about a month ago. It is on my line up to get brewed... Hopefully next, but I have a big project building a deck onto my house right now, so it still might be a month or so. Here's the recipe...

Batch = 11
OG = 1.060
60 minute mash @ 150 Target pH of 5.4
Mash Water = 10.5
   Gypsum – 7.4g
   Calcium Chloride – 5.0g
   Epsom Salt – 2.6g
Sparge Water = 6
   Gypsum – 4.2g
   Calcium Chloride – 2.9g
   Epsom Salt – 1.5g
Total Water = 16.5
1 gallon of boil off and 1.5 gallons of mash/hop loss accounted for

85% Pale Two Row – 20 lb 8 oz
10% Munich – 2 lb 10 oz
5% Caramel/Crystal 60L – 1 lb 5 oz

60 minute – 1 oz Warrior
5 minute – 2 deveined and deseeded sliced habanero (bagged and allowed to steep through hop stand)
0 minute – 5 oz Citra (Chill to 175 and whirlpool for 30 minutes)
Dry Hop – 2.5 oz Citra in each keg

WLP 001 Cali Ale

Rack onto 7.5 pounds of cubed mangos (bag in paint strainer bag) for each secondary bucket.

Add habanero to keg to taste. Pull when desired heat is present.

Beer Recipes / Re: Habanero/Mango Pale Ale
« on: May 10, 2016, 02:30:50 AM »
So I've been kicking around this idea in my head for about a month now, so I figured to put a rough draft down in writing and get some feedback. I'm looking for a noticeable, but not overbearing mango flavor. I also want more of the habanero flavor rather than heat in this beer. Some heats ok, but I don't want to have to give out a t-shirt every time sombody finishes one lol...

I'm thinking about an OG between 1.055 and 1.060. Maybe a grain bill of 80% two row, 15% Munich, and 5% carapils (for body). This very well could be single hopped with Citra. If not, I'll use a neutral bittering hop and finish with Citra.

For the habanero, I'll de-vein and seed probably just one habanero, bag it, and add it to the boil for the last 5 minutes. Then let it steep for a 30 minute hop stand with the 0 minute hops.

After primary fermentation, it'll get racked onto 5 lbs of fresh mangoes. Once the secondary fermentation is complete, I'll taste it for habanero flavor. If I feel there needs to be more, I'll gut a couple more, bag and drop into the secondary until I get the desired taste.

Ready, set, criticize!

how did you sanitize the mangoes ?

Soooo I still haven't brewed this. But I don't sanitize fruit when I add it to beer. I wash it well. Peel, pit, and cut to size, freeze, thaw, if I puree, I puree... Then add it to the secondary. You're pretty safe once primary fermentation is complete.

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Fast Pitch
« on: May 09, 2016, 04:55:37 PM »
Seems like a legit product and it makes sence from a time savings standpoint. Mix with RO water and let her rip. But you have to factor in shipping on top of the ten bucks too. My LHBS does not stock it.

This is a good point. I'll probably buy a handful of them. Then, of course, some WYeast 1450 since I can't get WYeast locally either.

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Fast Pitch
« on: May 09, 2016, 03:14:28 PM »
I haven't tried it but the concept is legit.

4L of starter for $10.  That's only 400g of DME, so you're paying for convenience.  It's expensive... but then again so is buying a pressure canner.

I've weighed buying a pressure canner. Not cheap. The convenience is there after the initial time spent. I might have to give this a whirl. The other question is, is there an expiration date issued to this product?

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Fast Pitch
« on: May 09, 2016, 12:35:46 PM »
I think that i will stay with the DME and water method on the stovetop and cool and pitch.  It's cheap and easy just like the rest of my brewing. Cigar box stir plate works great also...If it's not broke....

Don't get me wrong, I don't have complaints about dme. This is all about time. I have an extremely busy schedule. If I can cut the hour out of making a traditional starter, that's an extra hour spent with the family. I brew a couple dozen batches a year. That's 24 starters. Over a year, that's a day's worth of time.

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Fast Pitch
« on: May 09, 2016, 12:03:35 PM »
I won 4 cans in a raffle.  I saw zero difference in performance between Fast Pitch and my DME method.   Very quick and easy.

Did you mix it with tap water, bottled water, distilled water?
I'm curious about this too. The obsessive part of my brain says I would need to pre-boil and cool the water, and that I should be concerned about having enough calcium to promote flocculation.

The other part of my brain tells me to shut the h3ll up....

Yeah, because if I have to boil and chill water, what the hell is the point? lol

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Fast Pitch
« on: May 09, 2016, 11:09:03 AM »
I won 4 cans in a raffle.  I saw zero difference in performance between Fast Pitch and my DME method.   Very quick and easy.

Did you mix it with tap water, bottled water, distilled water?

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Fast Pitch
« on: May 09, 2016, 10:57:59 AM »
Yeah. I'd pay $2.50 to save about an hour's worth of time... Add in the cost of the DME too. Mix this with a bottle of water and your yeast and call it a day.

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