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Ingredients / Re: Post your water report
« on: March 02, 2015, 02:23:44 PM »
Ok the search continues. I don't see how this is a deal at $6.50 per 5 gallons. Back to single gallons of distilled for .88.

doesn't publix carry the RO machines?

Yes they do...not sure what the heck I was thinking. They do offer .30 refills on gallons of RO water.

there you go, now you're in business !
I just needed to talk it through ad-naseum before I (you) figured it out.

im here for the benefit of the people....  ::)

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Ingredients / Re: Post your water report
« on: March 02, 2015, 02:21:21 PM »
Ok the search continues. I don't see how this is a deal at $6.50 per 5 gallons. Back to single gallons of distilled for .88.

doesn't publix carry the RO machines?

Yes they do...not sure what the heck I was thinking. They do offer .30 refills on gallons of RO water.

there you go, now you're in business !

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: When is a lager an ale
« on: March 02, 2015, 02:04:54 PM »
A lager is an ale if it is brewed to taste like one.  And vice versa.  In the end it's all about the flavor profile regardless of how it is made.
Ballantine was justly famous for their ales, but during the time when they were the third largest brewer in the USA, they also produced a best selling lager beer...which was actually fermented with a specially selected ale yeast.

i can make an ale appear to be a lager and a lager appear to be an ale, sure. if boston lager is made with lager yeast and at lager fermentation temps (no idea if it is or not), its a lager.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: When is a lager an ale
« on: March 02, 2015, 01:45:03 PM »
who says boston lager is an ale? regardless of grist, lager yeast fermented lager temps is a lager. ales regardless of grist fermented at lager temps with ale yeast is still an ale.

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I am wondering if the author actually believes what she wrote in this article. My guess is she wrote it to get clicks and a reaction. Mission accomplished.

one less click here....just posting  ;D

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Mash PH and darker grains
« on: March 02, 2015, 11:20:57 AM »
Thanks for the help!

Here is link to my water adjustments for a dry stout I was planning to brew:
http://www.brewersfriend.com/mash-chemistry-and-brewing-water-calculator/?id=XK4XW4Y

I think I am leaning towards mashing everything together based on the comments so far

just a suggestion, but don't be afraid to add a little baking soda and land your PH in the 5.5-5.6 range. Ive found this to really benefit my darker beer-along with a lower sulfate level.

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Ingredients / Re: Post your water report
« on: March 02, 2015, 11:18:35 AM »
Ok the search continues. I don't see how this is a deal at $6.50 per 5 gallons. Back to single gallons of distilled for .88.

doesn't publix carry the RO machines?

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Ingredients / Re: Post your water report
« on: March 02, 2015, 11:06:24 AM »
Correction...just called the "Primo" customer service and it is indeed a RO water system even though it says drinking. They also mentioned they add a trace amount of minerals for taste. Bingo. At least I can save some money on 10 gallons of water now.

just grab tds meter if you dont have one and check their water each time.

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Ingredients / Re: Post your water report
« on: March 02, 2015, 11:01:24 AM »
I'll stick to RO, unfortunately the only large refillable water I see is purified and drinking at local Wal Marts.

if it becomes a hassle, look at getting a unit installed. i like having mine and glad i did it.

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Beer Travel / Re: Newport Hofbrauhaus
« on: March 02, 2015, 11:00:16 AM »
So I'm here. I missed the Braun beer as they tapped the doppelbock on Wednesday,  but I am stuck with tiny little half liter glasses as they won't serve the 8% doppelbock in full liters! I know I read in here somewhere that in Munich, the half litres are only for women and children. I guess they did not hear that here

awesome, huh? heading down to ours in Cleveland sunday for the dopplebock..we'll see if they restrict the liter there!

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There is still a hope. Good to hear.

if you figure the average 6-pack sells for $9.99 in grocery store , that's $1.65 a beer. selling that beer in a bar for even $3.50 is a nice and fair price - but $5-$7 a bottle or pint.....robbery.

$3.50 maybe gets you a domestic.  Are local prices in Chicago really that much higher than everwhere else?  $5 pints are pretty standard and a good deal for craft beer or imports.

well in general the big cities are more expensive that greater cleveland. however, there's always at least a few great places in big cities to find great beer at a great price.

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There is still a hope. Good to hear.

if you figure the average 6-pack sells for $9.99 in grocery store , that's $1.65 a beer. selling that beer in a bar for even $3.50 is a nice and fair price - but $5-$7 a bottle or pint.....robbery.

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In my area, chain restaurants are more than guilty of selling craft beer at absurd prices. (Wife recently paid $7.50 for a bottle of Dogfish 60 minute.  >:( )

The mom and pop restaurants seem to be much better, usually in the $4-$5ish range, depending on the beer.. The local brewpub also sells their beer for about that much.

Moral of the story: We don't eat at chains when we can help it.

This could be because chain restaurants are in food business and beer is just add on.
Its a stretch to say most of them are even in the food business. They're in the reheating engineered corn syrup and factory farmed meat business.

we like to go to a local franchise called Panini's. great food and monster selection of craft beers. you can get everyday 16oz draft or 12oz bottle craft specials for $3.50-$4.50, 22oz drafts $5.50.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Mash PH and darker grains
« on: March 02, 2015, 10:29:27 AM »
Either:    1/  Add the dark grains at the end of the mash and figure your pH based on only the grains you mashed, or  2/  Mash everything together and target 5.5-5.6 as your pH.  I do the latter.

+1 I prefer the end result by adding it all to the mash and adjusting to PH 5.5-5.6.

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Ingredients / Re: Post your water report
« on: March 02, 2015, 10:20:39 AM »

I've listed my most recent report below in bold (water straight from tap). This is compared to my first water test (water ran through water softener).
Thoughts?

I can certainly smell the chlorine in the tap water, I'm considering just buying a cheap carbon filter or maybe just using tablets.

Finally, would this tap water profile work?

pH-8.1, 8.2
TDS-461, 449
Cations/Anions- 7.2/7.4, 7.7/7.7

Sodium-165 (ppm), 24
Potassium-<1, 3
Calcium-1, 67
Magnesium-<1, 38
Total Hardness (CaCO3) -3, 326
Nitrate-<.1, (same)
Sulfate-58, 61
Chloride-35, 38
Carbonate-<1 (same)
Bicarbonate-168, 174
Total Alkalinity-139, 144
Total Phosphorus-.01, <.01
Total Iron-<.01 (same)

So I'm curious about a couple of other options since my two above tests aren't stellar.
-mix of 50/50 tap and RO (would this lower the high magnesium)?
-tap water with a simple charcoal filter.

if it were me, id just go all RO and call it a day.
Yeah I've done that  while including gypsum and Calc Chl. Are you talking about just using plain RO?

My only though w tap was that you are gaining a lot of good minerals already there.

city water fluctuation can cause you continual frustration. if i was already needing to partially use RO, i'd use ALL RO because i always have a really good idea of my base-adding all brewing salts as needed per beer recipe.

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