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All Grain Brewing / Re: Pilsner brewing
« on: January 14, 2011, 12:36:10 PM »
I like the WLP-833 for bocks and Doppelbocks.  That is the Ayinger strain, and no Wyeast equivalent that I know of.


VSS Wyeast Hella-bock, which is out right now, is supposedly the same one.

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Ingredients / Re: Apriocot/Peach flavor in IPA, what hop is it??
« on: January 14, 2011, 07:30:25 AM »
Yeah, Amarillo does have some peach as well (more than Simcoe IMO) - but Citra is a peach/mango explosion. I tried an all Citra pale ale once and I found it undrinkable. But others actually enjoyed it. Me thinks they were nutz.

I'm with you entirely on Citra Keith - I gave away the second keg of my Citra/Simcoe APA last year - yeck.

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Ingredients / Re: New bulk grain supplier
« on: January 14, 2011, 07:26:58 AM »
I haven't ordered anything from rebelbrewer, but I did ask them a bunch of questions and they were very responsive.  Good customer service IME, even though I'm not a customer.

FWIW - I've used all of the major online retailers, and without a doubt Rebel is no 1 in service.  They are all very good, but Rebel is exceptional.  Plus they seem to get a lot of specialty one-off stuff that I don't see anywhere else (Falconers Flight hops, floor malted Bo-Pils malt, etc.) which is pretty cool.

euge - I just bought a sack of that myself (new LHBS in town that carries it) so no help there, but I did NOT like their Pale Ale malt.  Given that so many people love the 2-row, I am holding out hope that it is the goods.

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Beer Recipes / Re: Mock my Bock
« on: January 07, 2011, 01:12:29 PM »
Hochkurz might be your best bet:

http://braukaiser.com/wiki/index.php/Decoction_Mashing

Kaiser posts here all the time, by the by...

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Beer Recipes / Re: Mock my Bock
« on: January 07, 2011, 12:43:49 PM »
I'm planning on a single infusion mash. Is a different method preferable, such as decoction? I only have experience with single infusion...

yes - as johnf mentioned, traditionally, bock/doppelbock is one malt, one hop.  100% Dark Munich and your choice of noble hop bittering to low 20s ibus.

however, dark munich at that high of a percentage, really needs a decoction mash otherwise it ends up too sweet and cloying, IMO, and the opinion of many other brewers I respect.

if you want to try your hand at decoction, this would be the beer to try it on.  just be sure to have the WHOLE day blocked off  ;) :D

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Beer Recipes / Re: Mock my Bock
« on: January 07, 2011, 12:36:38 PM »
100% would be traditional. I wouldn't go less than 80%.

i think he's single infusing - I wouldn't do that high % DM  if I were you.

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Beer Recipes / Re: Mock my Bock
« on: January 07, 2011, 11:32:55 AM »
I'd go with at least 20% Weyermann or Best Munich II.  I just made Majorvices' Trad Bock and it uses almost 50%. 

Be sure its Best or Weyermann, another maltster, and I'd be leery.  Which malsters can you get?

4% caramunich sounds perfect.

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Beer Recipes / Re: Mock my Bock
« on: January 07, 2011, 08:57:51 AM »
Way, way, way too much crystal (36oz  :o).  I would keep it 5% or less and make it of the Caramunich variety, not regular crystal.

I'd consider incorporating some dark munich to get some more rich munich flavor and aroma.

You'll need about 5-6qts of starter on a stir plate.  If you can't stir plate that much, you're actually better off brewing a smaller beer (helles, dunkel, etc.) and using ~half the slurry to make the bock.

48df pitching and 48-50df fermenting would be perfect.

Welcome to the forum, BTW!  :)

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Dornbusch's Advice for Alt?
« on: January 07, 2011, 08:03:09 AM »
I also detected just a hint of sulfur in the beer, I purged it a few times with CO2 as I was putting the keg on gas to try and get rid of that.  Hopefully that'll dissipate during lagering.  Its in the lager fridge at 30F now, I'll give it as long as possible before breaking it out.

one thing to try (majorvices helped me with this a couple years back) is to hook the gas up to the beer side and bubble the CO2 up through the beer - will help release some of the sulfur.

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The Pub / Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tamp
« on: January 07, 2011, 08:00:19 AM »
Speaking of unfit for human consumption AND fueling cars with alcohol: http://newyork.grubstreet.com/2011/01/four_loko_is_being_used_to_fue.html


reminds me of yet another great Simpsons quote:

"One for you, one for me" - Homer, in a dream, as he fills up his car at the beer station.

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The Pub / Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tamp
« on: January 06, 2011, 03:08:13 PM »
Sugar cane is the source.

"In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women"

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Ingredients / Re: Palmer Spreadsheet Error
« on: January 05, 2011, 07:16:50 PM »
So, is adding CaCO3 to a mash basically useless?  It sounds like it will neither add calcium nor raise the mash pH.

i am no water engineer by any stretch, but I watched my mash climb 0.3 this weekend with the addition of chalk when I realized my mash pH was too low.  so be what it may, it works, whether or not its magic dust, I'm not sure.

on that note, I'd always read to add the salts to the mash, not the strike water, as the mash (I suspect) helps increase the solubility of the salts?

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 2011 Brewing Goals
« on: January 05, 2011, 02:37:48 PM »
Brew and drink a little less (brewed too much last year).

Buy less commercial (part of the reason I brewed too much  ;) )

Brew an Altbier (last one I made was 2000 gallons ago  :( )

Score at least National on BJCP exam in August.

Try decoction again.

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Brewing my first ever mead - mojito mead.

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Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Two beers
« on: January 05, 2011, 11:56:31 AM »
The Leffe I'd heard great things about. Too bad I'm disappointed with it.

yeah - not a fan of that one - I like Grimbergen Blonde much,much better.

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