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Equipment and Software / Re: Bigger fermenter? - but I have no pump!
« on: April 07, 2011, 10:37:18 AM »
Blatz - you must be a big guy to lift a full conical. 

yeah, I'm bigger than the average bear, but one of my other hobbies is staying in shape - lots of deadlifting, cleans, etc. so perhaps I take lifting the conical into the fridge for granted.

in my upcoming brewhouse build, I will be pumping across the room into the conical already inside the fridge, so I won't have to worry about that anymore.

to the OP - the more I think about it, just stick with the 2 fermenters - its how I did it for years before I could ferment all in one.  You can try other yeasts out, and in cases where you're using the same yeast, why not just blend the two fermentors into the kegs or bottle bucket?

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Equipment and Software / Re: Bigger fermenter - but I have no pump.
« on: April 07, 2011, 08:50:49 AM »
1. I'd LOVE to get a conical - but the cost!  Ungh!!!

2. How do you fill your conical from your brew kettle w/o a pump?  I assume the top of the fermenter is above your boil kettle(?)

1).  I hear ya, fun toy, but totally not necessary.

2).  My burner sits on a stand about 2 -2.5 feet off the ground (about 8in higher than a propane tank) and then with the burner and kettle, the height of the ball valve is more than sufficient to let gravity feed into the fermenter.

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Equipment and Software / Re: Summer Lager Temp Idea
« on: April 07, 2011, 08:36:49 AM »
interesting, but seems immensely more complicated than a regular old swamp cooler, which if you have water that cold, should be pretty easy for you.

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Equipment and Software / Re: Bigger fermenter - but I have no pump.
« on: April 07, 2011, 08:35:10 AM »
For those of you who brew 10-gallon batches.  What do you use as your fermenter? 

I currently have to 'split' each batch, because I still use 6.5 Gal. carboys as my fermenters (I put 1/2 the batch in each). 

What are you using for a fermenter that will hold all 10 gallons?  Also, how do you move that big, heavy thing when you have to rack to a 2nd fermenter?  I have no pumps.....

14.5 gallon conical.  I rarely use a secondary anymore, but when I rack to kegs, the out valve  sits just high enough over a corney for me.

some people ferment in kegs from Sabco, or corney kegs.  those you can rack via CO2 pressure, and not have to worry about lifting.

FWIW, I lift my full 14.5 gal conical into my upright chest freezer, which isn't terrible, but you can devise a ramp or other device to help you out.

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Question for WL051 users.
« on: April 07, 2011, 06:55:12 AM »
interesting comments guys

Rob - I know exactly what you mean - I actually contemplated whether I over pitched this batch - I followed jamil's calculator as I always do, but in my gut I felt I was pitching too much slurry - it was about a month in the fridge and mrmalty effectively wanted me to pitch almost double the amount as if it were fresh.  The IPA batch fermented very fast which had me concerned.  My conical/upright chest freezer combo usually has no problem regulating temp and i ferment on the lower end of the range(64), but you raise good points.  keep in mind the intense orange can also be enhanced by my hop selection.

gordon - in the past I used a lot of 1272 for american ales and never got these types of fruity aromas, even on re-pitches.  I'll have to give that one a try again. 

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Ingredients / Re: Simcoe Hop /Shortage? When is 2011 Crop due?
« on: April 07, 2011, 06:38:53 AM »
from what Keith (majorvices) is telling us, and some of my local pro friends, Simcoe and Amarillo will be rather scarce for homebrewers next year, since most pros contract out what they will buy ahead of time.

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Question for WL051 users.
« on: April 06, 2011, 12:52:20 PM »
cool - thanks jay.  certainly could be what you say.

I think it very well could be the esters of WL051, but they are so strong versus what others claim (slightly more fruity than 001 ) from this yeast that I wondered if I just stubbed my toe on the handling of this one.

what's most odd is that the IIPA and IPA smell so similar yet have such different hop schedules.

It'll be hard to test fate, but I guess I will have to go one more run with 051 sometime to confirm my findings.

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Question for WL051 users.
« on: April 06, 2011, 12:19:40 PM »
Housekeeping?

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: A few nagging questions.
« on: April 06, 2011, 11:54:50 AM »
so I can't comment on that but I don't think you'll shatter a glass carboy if your wort is too hot. 

ahem, it can be done.  I know a guy who crimped his water in hose on his Therminator during the first part of runoff once. It shattered my, I mean his carboy.

I also use a Blichmann Boilermaker 15 with a Thermanator. I've found that by using the hop blocker and bagging my hops (muslin bags) acts as extra insurance against clogging the dip tube with trub. The muslin bags migrate around the hop blocker upon draining and act as a trub filter therefore rendering a filtered beer out of the BK.

wow - that's pretty disappointing that you still have to use hop bags with the Hop Blocker.  with my new brewhouse I am looking to use the same kettles (though I nixed the Therminator last year as you know).   Have you tried it with pellets floating freely and come to that solution or are you a belt and suspenders kinda guy?  Have you tried with whole flower?

To the OP - sorry not meaning to hijack your thread - here's some of my thoughts on your queries:

1). well, see above. but with regard to whirlpooling - do you have a whirlpool arm?  I created one based on Jamil's instructions, but you can get more advanced.  basically its a copper tube that spans the inside contour of your kettle.  pump wort out through the ball valve at the bottom through the arm and a whirlpool will start forming.  Mine is not super fast, but it works and actually IC + Whirlpool is WAYYY better than Shirron or Therminator of which I have tried all three and settled on this.

2). see above on chiller.  get buckets or Better Bottles.  Safer.  Or if you have the coin, Conical - fun toy.

3). the wort should be rolling, maybe jumping a little on the sides, but not trying to jump out of the kettle. don't stop the boil early - it will mess with your hop utilizations.  just try to keep it down.  if you can't, brew bigger batches (i.e. 6 gal instead of a 5 gal batch) and you'll end up where you intended.  but 2 gal an hour is high.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I've never had a Kolsh
« on: April 05, 2011, 06:53:50 AM »
Gaffel is often available.

My local brewery makes an awesome one (Der Chancellor) but he is draft only right now, otherwise I'd send you some. 


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All Grain Brewing / Re: So your Barley Crusher won't Crush?
« on: April 05, 2011, 06:52:21 AM »
maybe the hardened rollers that are 2" in diameter.

yeah, that's what I got - they are sweet.  I do my "Tim Allen/Tool Time" grunt when I crush grains now.  That helps I think.

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Conical fermenter HELP
« on: April 04, 2011, 02:32:32 PM »
THE MOST IMPORTANT REASON to use a stainless conical over a glass carboy is the improved safety.  I really like my Blichman conical. But does it make better beer?  Probably not.  But I don't have to worry about severing a limb.
Wait. What?  Have there been reasonable glass carboy brewers that have sacrificed limb for their craft?  

he's exaggerating a little (I think toes and fingers more common than limbs), but there have been plenty of horror stories posted on the forums about broken carboys and the trips to the emergency room. 

the only nice thing about carboys is the voyeuristic aspect.  otherwise, they are an obsolete relic of late 20th century brewing  ;)

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Equipment and Software / Re: Leaky Better Bottles
« on: April 04, 2011, 07:25:32 AM »
I've had 2 that leaked. I would not attribute it to cleaning solution, rather mishandling.

If, when they are full of liquid, you put them down a little too rough, the hard plastic on the bottom can crack - I noticed this on both ones that leaked.


I think you hit the nail on the head.  Thanks.  But rather than call it mishandling, I would call it weak design, which is why I'm not buying any more, because I don't recall doing anything rough with them.

yeah - I hear you.  I don't really use them anymore, but if I was going to need 5gal fermenters going forward, I think I would just get good ol' buckets. 

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perfect brewnight, 'cept as I am cleaning up stuff and the WIC is cranking away, I look over to see my flameout hops sitting on the scale  :'(

threw them in at 180df so I should get something. and then worst case, I'll just have to dryhop more, but I'm still pissed cause it was otherwise a flawless session.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: So your Barley Crusher won't Crush?
« on: April 04, 2011, 07:00:27 AM »
ditto lonniemac - get a Monster.  Best new tool of the decade for my brewhouse.  BC had around 2tons through it, but its been decommissioned.


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