Just out of curiousity, why does everyone say nix the melanoiden? I've been considering using it in my next ipa to try to get more red in the coloring.
cause it brings a lot more than 'red' to the party.
the concentrated malt aroma will compete with the hop aromatics that you're trying to achieve here.
a little goes a long way with that one if you do choose to use it. like 4oz in 12gal batch little.