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All Grain Brewing / Re: Clear wort ???
« on: February 17, 2017, 07:28:22 AM »
Well, I apologize for any perceived negative input I gave.

Frankly, there is enough turmoil in my world. My Facebook is about dead from having to unfollow so many people. I've deleted all news channels from my TV. Now it's found its way into my beer forum. Fortunately I've learned enough that I can make drinkable beer. Maybe it's just time to call it a day.

Great people, great brewers, great info, used to be a great place to discuss beer 24/7.

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Ingredients / Re: Wheat beer with cocoa nibs? Bad idea? Worth a shot?
« on: February 16, 2017, 07:24:14 PM »
I have no idea how much... never brewed with them. But I have a lot of tasting experience, not always by choice. Another thing that comes to mind is that the stellar examples have all been one with the nibs paired with something else, like vanilla bean. But that's just personal preference and probably useless info

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Clear wort ???
« on: February 16, 2017, 07:11:12 PM »
I do BIAB with a good squeeze or three.  My wort never starts out clear but my beer ends up clear and tastes good.  I see some comments from folks who say they love how clear their wort is going into the boil.  Why is that a good thing?  Can I improve my beer by improving the clarity of my wort?

I used to BIAB and do the same, never worried about it. I used to skip vourlauf and not worry about it. I can't say I ever really noticed an impact, I don't know if there is benefit for one or the other. I recently put together a HERMS and do a constant recirculation and the resulting wort is extremely clear, as you would imagine. I only have 2 beers with this new process so I can't comment on anything from that just yet, still waiting to taste the beers, not just for that but overall. I believe if you can keep a clear product through your process, it seems it would make sense to help with the finished product but I have zero comparison.
OK, I am the OP, damnit, and here is a post that tries to answer my question! And there's been some others.

Here's what I think I got from this thread (aside from the derailing junk):
Clear wort into the BK is not a big deal but may have an incremental improving effect on my beer. There is  some science there but can my taste buds agree?  Try it and decide if it's worth the effort.
YUP!

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Clear wort ???
« on: February 16, 2017, 07:03:20 PM »
I must have missed a few nasty posts or they got deleted... seems like a fine thread to me. Except for all these screwballs that like cloudy beer.

At last Jim! Our paths converge!
No, you still suck

Edit: that's a winky icon just in case your computer doesn't recognize it.

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Ingredients / Re: Wheat beer with cocoa nibs? Bad idea? Worth a shot?
« on: February 16, 2017, 06:50:59 PM »
I recently had the opportunity to sample a light colored beer with cocoa nibs and coconut. This one was a gose, so it also was tart and had salt in it. It reminded me of tanning lotion. This was in a flight of about 20 other beers with cocoa nibs and it really became work after about 5 or 6 of them. But done right, meaning noticeable but restrained, they do make interesting and tasty beers. Too much and they are just... interesting. Way too much and they become a stunt, novelty. Gross.

Good luck and let us know how it goes

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Clear wort ???
« on: February 16, 2017, 06:42:45 PM »
I must have missed a few nasty posts or they got deleted... seems like a fine thread to me. Except for all these screwballs that like cloudy beer. 😉


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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: How many packets of dry yeast
« on: February 16, 2017, 04:10:52 PM »
How do we know with no volume numbers, other than assuming 5 gallons?

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Clear wort ???
« on: February 16, 2017, 04:08:45 PM »
That Bamforth interview I mentioned earlier would drive you fellas nuts. In summary, he says beer should be brilliant with the exception of Heffe. And no beer should look like chicken soup lol.

I'm of the brilliant beer group, but I allow for low levels of haze if it's readily understood where it's coming from, such as high hop aroma. But a low haze with low or no hop aroma is just bad juju.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Clear wort ???
« on: February 16, 2017, 03:36:57 PM »
Back then they also didn't care about washing their hands except after surgery

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Clear wort ???
« on: February 16, 2017, 03:00:24 PM »
Personally, I prefer brilliant beer.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Clear wort ???
« on: February 16, 2017, 01:21:57 PM »
I'd suggest going to Beer Smith and listen to the 2/9 podcast on Clarity with Bamforth. Then take the suggested steps at eliminating each cause.

Or RDWHAH



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All Grain Brewing / Re: Clear wort ???
« on: February 16, 2017, 12:54:37 PM »
No, just posting an observation is all. Generally speaking. If I lead you to believe I was speaking specifically to this I apologize. I'm talking about how we, as a forum in general, not everyone, not specifically you necessarily... the royal we... tend to hash out little things that may or may not make much difference, and accept more elaborate things more easily, regardless of if they make much difference.

On that note, maybe the forum has lost is brew pub feel and loose discussions are no longer well received.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Clear wort ???
« on: February 16, 2017, 12:12:05 PM »
It's fun to see how these discussions go sometimes. A simple suggestion that requires less work can often be debated to death, but an elaborate, more work, expensive, potentially dangerous thing can be just easily accepted.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Clear wort ???
« on: February 16, 2017, 11:20:43 AM »
I don't have a thin profit margin to worry about. And the chickens don't care if it's wet. If there is a beer quality increase from bag squeezing it ought to carry over to batch spargers

Was there an assertion that beer quality increased by bag squeezing?  If so, I missed it.
Right, and therefore if something doesn't increase quality, why do it? In this case the squeeze might save $1. I assumed that adding a dollar might fix the implied possible problem, since it seemed to point to clear sweet wort not always happening due to the squeeze. It seemed like the concensus was to keep squeezing, so I assumed the squeeze must be improving the beer for some folks. Hence, my curiosity on whether these same folks would recommend pressing every last drop out of a batch sparged "normal" beer.

Carrying this out, why not do a congress mash?

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Clear wort ???
« on: February 16, 2017, 11:00:47 AM »
Shouldn't batch spargers be pushing down on their grain bed to get every last drop?
Some breweries do this. Alaskan pays such a premium for their ingredients that they need to optimize them as best as possible. They also use their spent grain to generate steam, so having it as dry as possible helps there too.


https://alaskanbeer.com/beerpoweredbeer/
I don't have a thin profit margin to worry about. And the chickens don't care if it's wet. If there is a beer quality increase from bag squeezing it ought to carry over to batch spargers

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