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The Pub / Robertsons
« on: December 02, 2013, 11:41:56 PM »
My newly coined name for these folks.


Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Low attenuation problems
« on: December 02, 2013, 09:14:37 PM »
Dang! If they were clear I'd be all over it.

All Grain Brewing / Re: Water Profiling
« on: December 02, 2013, 08:15:12 PM »
Santa has a no contact order against me. Plus I'd like to know how if the power goes out or zombie apocalypse.

I think I might have a grip on it but just checking. My water is
Ca 17
Mg 10
Na 8
Cl 0
SO4 0
CaCO3 107
pH 7.8

Generally I need 1/2 tsp lactic in the sparge always, and my light colored beer needs 1/2 tsp in the mash too.

I'll only be playing with sulfate and chloride. Little beers get 4g of Ca, moderate beers get 8, and bigger get 12. Then for example, if I was using 8g total in a balanced beer it would be 4g gypsum and 4g chloride. Hop forward would be more like 6/2, and malt forward would be 2/6.

Am I on the right track?

All Grain Brewing / Water Profiling
« on: December 02, 2013, 03:06:36 PM »
I'm getting dangerously close to knowing everything that I personally want to know about water. I can stumble thru brewers friend quite well now. Got a good grip on pH, for me at least.

Drop box water profiles...
Can someone explain, in terms a redneck can grasp, how they come up with the different profiles? At the end of this little water journey I'm on I would like to understand how much Gypsum and CaCl to add for certain beers. It looks like you can use drop box preloaded or create your own targets.

I'd like to know sulfate and chloride targets (range) for...
Light colored malt fwd, hop fwd, and balanced
Dark colored malt fwd, and balanced

Seems like it would help to know why too, so long as I don't get lost in the weeds.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Thermometers?
« on: December 02, 2013, 02:48:46 PM »
Installed brewmometer in 15 gallon SS MT. Only need to calibrate if you take it apart.

The Pub / Re: Japanese Tire Commercial Everyone Needs to See
« on: December 02, 2013, 02:45:40 PM »
Kore wa nan des?

Beer Recipes / Re: Hop Burst IPA
« on: December 02, 2013, 09:20:31 AM »
So the taste schedule follows the boil schedule?

Equipment and Software / Re: A better feeler gauge
« on: December 01, 2013, 10:22:00 PM »
Genius actually

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Other uses for Wyeast 2112
« on: December 01, 2013, 09:31:04 PM »
I hope it makes light hybrids cuz I've got one going right now at 55°

The Pub / Re: Spirit distillation
« on: December 01, 2013, 08:38:35 PM »
I wonder about biofuel still? Saw one for sale in a lhbs. Strange place to sell fuel makers

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: To clone or not to clone
« on: December 01, 2013, 07:03:01 PM »
I don't think it's a clone unless it says clone. The rest just think they are clones. Psy clones

The Pub / Re: Spirit distillation
« on: December 01, 2013, 06:58:57 PM »
Still... illegal

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
« on: December 01, 2013, 01:35:44 PM »
My old man got three bombers from me for his 90th. Someone asked me where's mine? In my most sincere sounding voice I replied, I didn't know you wanted some.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: To clone or not to clone
« on: November 30, 2013, 08:50:18 PM »
Words are funny things.  So many problems, misunderstandings and even fights come about through incorrect interpretations of what people think another means when using a specific word.  This is why in theology for example the first order of business is always to define terms.

If we don't have a clearly defined meaning of a word that is shared by all who are in the conversation what results is assumptions.  Oddly, human beings have a general tendency to assume negative motivations, states of mind, etc. in someone else, and to excuse or interpret their own actions, thoughts, conclusions much more generously.  In counseling of couples, in politics, et al, this is generally referred to as 'Negative Mind Reading.'

Why am I being so philosophical?  Because I think the real issue is what one thinks 'cloning' means will determine whether they clone or not; or think others should.

Is brewing classic styles cloning?  Is using a recipe from this website cloning?  Is using a kit cloning?  Is brewing a beer based on BJCP guidelines cloning?  One could argue that they all are or none are. 

Cloning for one person could be a general target, for another a highly rigorous, scientific process with double-blind processes and the like.

I for one don't care.  And I guess I'm also arguing for others not to care.  We are all beer brewers.  That is the goal.  If you brew beer and you enjoy it, you/we win.  I think it should matter not a whit to the home brewing community if one is motivated by making exact duplicates of something they love, or by making beers no one has ever had before. 

We will alienate a lot of people if we have a list of acceptable/unacceptable motivations for brewing.

Its probably really hard to literally clone beer (genetically identical to parent), so I'm guessing that it means identical tasting, appearance, aroma.

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