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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Re-pitching yeast in beer from barrels
« on: January 30, 2017, 04:19:24 PM »
Not a barrel expert per se, but I've done several that sit a while before final packaging. I have had good luck bottle conditioning ales after 3-4 months secondary on fruit, 10%+ without extra yeast. Bret beers I really don't worry anymore regardless of age in primary or secondary. Bret lives a long long long time. If ever you are worried though I have had good results pitching a small amount of champagne dry yeast (1/2 pack plenty for 5 gallons).

I concur that your situation will be totally fine as is.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Message to the forum. from me.
« on: January 30, 2017, 02:47:10 PM »
Well, I just finished reading all of this. You guys owe me 15 minutes of my life back.

I'd suggest NOT creating division of the former just to appease, it will only cement the division. I think this will pass, or we'll all just kinda walk away. Up to everyone on which happens

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Message to the forum. from me.
« on: January 30, 2017, 02:41:25 PM »
Yet another thread that is falling apart into argumentation. Why?


This is why I mostly stopped posting here. Keith holds out an olive branch, asks for peace, and everyone wants to air their grievances, yet again. This is so painful to watch as I have met and interacted with many of you. It's disappointing.


The mods have an impossible job, that is contributing their experiences and opinions (which many value), as well as trying to maintain some semblance of order and propriety. This forum has been and remains a wonderful source of information - and deep experiences with all kinds of brewing. LODO isn't the first controversy that aired out here.


Imagine being a new brewer, asking a question and watching answers devolve into chaos. You would either walk away and never participate, or assume this is how the AHA and it's members communicate. God help them if they read some of the more controversial threads.


Mods - thank all of you for the hard work. The rest of us should take the earlier advice to look at our posts, and make sure they contribute positively. There should be no reason EVER for any personal attacks.


All I can do - is be open, respectful, and considerate of others opinions and positions... I have certainly learned to read and reread my posts before I hit that old POST button. I am the king of foot-in-mouth.
Great points from a great guy who makes great beer with humble attitude

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Message to the forum. from me.
« on: January 30, 2017, 02:37:22 PM »
Other mods may be more in tune with what is happening. I know I have seen objections to Bayareabrewer's posts, It is simply impossible for me to police every post made on this forum. If there were inappropriate posts by certain individuals it wasn't intentionally over looked. I promise that.

Again, this thread is meant as an olive branch. I do not mean to offend anyone, including Bryan and Derek. I appreciate everyone's contributions. This is a great airing of grievances. I hope we can all move along. Anything dumb I have done or said, please accept my apologies. As far as I am concerned I am starting over and I would appreciate if we all started over now.
I had an ex who would thrash me with the olive branch. Hence ex... we don't speak her name

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Message to the forum. from me.
« on: January 30, 2017, 11:32:39 AM »
I agree with Narvin and Phil.

As mods, you need to understand that you are held at a higher standard and should behave as such. Have an opinion is great, trolling is not.

I have never been an intentional troll. If I did troll any one here on the forum I feel it was taken out of context. Please understand the fine line mods and myself have to walk here. We want everyone's views to be expressed, but at the same time we simply just can't have opinions being dictated to the point of absolute.

I am offering an olive branch here. But on the other hand, I'm not going to tolerate being discredited every time I want to post. And in the end, that is what has been happening. Not just to me, but to many others. This is not conducive to a healthy environment. There is nothing wrong with disagreements. But there is something wrong with judging other people's beer entirely by their expression of process based on a few claims that are, frankly, insubstantial. Or at the very least, completely over blown.

No one here has to agree with each other's processes. But telling people they are doing in wrong simply because you think you are doing it "right" without even tasting the "offending beer" is just ridiculous.

For instance, I recently posted that a gentle simmering boil was fine to a question posed by another member. I am sure I have made good beer by following this method. But I was told that I was wrong and that my beer was surely crap because I didn't understand the science. And if that isn't exactly what was said that was exactly how I took it.

I am a damn good brewer. And I am sick and tired of being told my methods are insubstantial based on other peoples views. Maybe your beers are superior to mine, I would certainly look forward to trying them. But the insisting on certain processes as being critically necessary and disagreeing with everyone else who has a different viewpoint based on their experience is stupid.
I have tried a lot of beer, including several of yours, and without hesitation I can say your beer is top shelf! If you're doing it wrong it sure doesn't show. Or I just have a bad palate or wrong personal preferences

Thanks! I had no idea you had tried my beer.
You shipped me some in a swap, remember?

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Message to the forum. from me.
« on: January 30, 2017, 08:45:33 AM »
I agree with Narvin and Phil.

As mods, you need to understand that you are held at a higher standard and should behave as such. Have an opinion is great, trolling is not.

I have never been an intentional troll. If I did troll any one here on the forum I feel it was taken out of context. Please understand the fine line mods and myself have to walk here. We want everyone's views to be expressed, but at the same time we simply just can't have opinions being dictated to the point of absolute.

I am offering an olive branch here. But on the other hand, I'm not going to tolerate being discredited every time I want to post. And in the end, that is what has been happening. Not just to me, but to many others. This is not conducive to a healthy environment. There is nothing wrong with disagreements. But there is something wrong with judging other people's beer entirely by their expression of process based on a few claims that are, frankly, insubstantial. Or at the very least, completely over blown.

No one here has to agree with each other's processes. But telling people they are doing in wrong simply because you think you are doing it "right" without even tasting the "offending beer" is just ridiculous.

For instance, I recently posted that a gentle simmering boil was fine to a question posed by another member. I am sure I have made good beer by following this method. But I was told that I was wrong and that my beer was surely crap because I didn't understand the science. And if that isn't exactly what was said that was exactly how I took it.

I am a damn good brewer. And I am sick and tired of being told my methods are insubstantial based on other peoples views. Maybe your beers are superior to mine, I would certainly look forward to trying them. But the insisting on certain processes as being critically necessary and disagreeing with everyone else who has a different viewpoint based on their experience is stupid.
I have tried a lot of beer, including several of yours, and without hesitation I can say your beer is top shelf! If you're doing it wrong it sure doesn't show. Or I just have a bad palate or wrong personal preferences

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Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Best of Craft 2017
« on: January 30, 2017, 08:37:37 AM »
Cool. I miss seeing him here but obviously he's super busy.  From posting back and forth, I feel like I know him. I did see him at NHC Seattle the first time I judged, but he was busy so I didn't introduce myself in person. Great guy, and I hope to see his beer on a list of medals soon. It would be really cool if it turned out to be a medal I awarded! But I don't think tom brews the type of beer I judged.

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Homebrewer Bios / Re: Hi everyone. My introductory first post on AHA.
« on: January 30, 2017, 02:18:07 AM »
Greetings!

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Message to the forum. from me.
« on: January 29, 2017, 09:02:15 PM »
Curious who the troll was early on in the intro to lodo thread. I sped read about 35 pages and still didn't see any trolling. Honestly I only care if you think it was me, so I can fix that. And I'm fine with whoever just saying it, if it was me. If it's someone else I don't care.

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Beer Recipes / Re: Looking for a good Dry Stout recipe
« on: January 29, 2017, 07:24:03 PM »
Here's what I'm thinking. I'm hoping to brew this on Tuesday. I added a touch of pale chocolate and dark crystal, since I get some of those flavors out of Murphy's and that's what I'm shooting for. I'm looking forward to this one.

HOME BREW RECIPE:
Title: Patrick Fitzmichael Stout

Brew Method: BIAB
Style Name: Irish Stout
Boil Time: 60 min
Batch Size: 3 gallons (fermentor volume)
Boil Size: 4 gallons
Boil Gravity: 1.029
Efficiency: 80% (brew house)


STATS:
Original Gravity: 1.039
Final Gravity: 1.009
ABV (standard): 3.93%
IBU (tinseth): 30.6
SRM (morey): 31.35

FERMENTABLES:
3 lb - United Kingdom - Maris Otter Pale (75%)
2 oz - United Kingdom - Dark Crystal 80L (3.1%)
6 oz - Flaked Barley (9.4%)
6 oz - United Kingdom - Roasted Barley (9.4%)
2 oz - United Kingdom - Pale Chocolate (3.1%)

HOPS:
0.8 oz - East Kent Goldings, Type: Pellet, AA: 5, Use: Boil for 60 min, IBU: 30.6
0.5 oz - East Kent Goldings, Type: Pellet, AA: 5, Use: Boil for 0 min

MASH GUIDELINES:
1) Infusion, Temp: 148 F, Time: 75 min, Amount: 17 qt, Sacc Rest

YEAST:
Fermentis / Safale - English Ale Yeast S-04

Water Notes:
Add 2g of CaCl2 to target ~55ppm Calcium
Add 1.8mL of lactic acid to mash to target mash pH of 5.4

NOTES:
Add roast barley and chocolate malt in last 10 minutes of mash
Looks great. With your magic touch, no doubt it will be

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Message to the forum. from me.
« on: January 29, 2017, 06:54:44 PM »
How much are we paying moderators?

How are they selected, election?

Where can we find their job descriptions?

How do we find out who all the paid up AHA members are and who is just a visitor?

How many of these questions do you think are rhetorical?

I consider our moderators as some of the best folks on here. I saw some others get under their skin and I don't blame those who let it get the best of them. Some people are just hard to get along with. It looks to me that most folks are trying to move forward. Some haven't really changed in 3 years...

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Hey cool, good job. Lots of ways to add/help hop aroma. Hang around long enough and you'll hear a lot of them.

I don't have that recipe in front of me. There should be at least a hint from a 15 min addition. Maybe next time throw in an ounce at flame out.

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Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Best of Craft 2017
« on: January 29, 2017, 06:19:15 PM »
Guess who else was here, at least in spirt! Found these three leftovers to haul back to the room.

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