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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Master is too weak of a word
« on: March 29, 2016, 04:27:40 PM »
I agree with Dennis, you don't need to add the stats for the comparison questions. They only tend to cost points rather than add them. On the recipe question, you only need the stats so you can show that your recipe lands in them.
(IBUs, OG, FG, and SRM.)

Writing the style comparisons in prose takes too long, IMO, and its harder for the graders to see organization in a paragraph.  You are better off using grids for the AAFM parts but then doing the comparison/contrast in prose.
Copy that, Steve. Grids it is

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Master is too weak of a word
« on: March 29, 2016, 03:33:06 PM »
Looking it all over again, I think instead of laboriously trying to rote memorize 80 styles, I will start with the 12 recipe styles. 12 months ought to be plenty of time to really dig into each one, including writing score sheets on each with a classic example, researching, writing, and brewing my own recipes.

Meanwhile I'll chunk away at the others, maybe grouping them as they compare to the big 12 so it makes sense in my head.

The other side project will be nailing down my knowledge of techniques, ingredients, and troubleshooting.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Master is too weak of a word
« on: March 29, 2016, 02:39:01 PM »
Well I'm certain my scoring ability has improved since my tasting test. And having the styles locked down will help that test as well. So maybe 91/91 will be my target. Honesty, if I came in at 81/81 I'd be happy. The biggest reason I'm doing this is so I can be more useful.

Homebrew Competitions / Re: 2016 NHC
« on: March 29, 2016, 02:22:22 PM »
After writing my email on about 30 score sheets that weekend, I decided that from now on I'm sending a short thank you note to the emails on my entries. I'll bet they dont hear that enough. I got very nice responses from all four. A little niceness goes a long way.

Scoring wise, I've had 42s on a Scottish in the past that didn't go to minibos. Highest rank on those was certified. This year my high score on the saison bret was a GM2 and 35, didn't advance. The Am Stout high score was a GM and it got a 38 and 3rd. So obviously it depends on overall quality of the flight. And to some extent the style. It could be assumed that brewers entering stouts and porters might tend to be fairly new. Where brewers entering bret beers might have a little experience.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Master is too weak of a word
« on: March 29, 2016, 02:01:16 PM »
A few comments from someone studying for the written (took it once to just get an idea despite knowing I was woefully underprepped):

1) As far as the styles go, practice writing them out in the format expected on the test.  That will help you learn them for _both_ exams and should improve your general knowledge of the styles.  You really only need to know the numerical stats for the recipe question currently.  The style comparisons, you just need to know AAFMO, 1 commercial example, and how they're similar/different.
2) If you don't write by hand much, start practicing.  You're going to need to be able to get all the information onto the page in an organized manner.  If you can't get it out fast enough, it doesn't matter how much you know.  Write up your own answers to the questions, and refine them in advance.  All the writing will help you drill it into your own head so you can relay it onto the page with much less pressure.  My answers got progressively worse as my exam went on because I really wasn't prepared for the writing part.  By the time I got to the last ingredient question (water), I was completely glossing over lots of details because I suck at writing (never do it in daily course of activities) and time was running short.
3) According to many advanced judges I've talked to, the path to National is to teach the Tasting Exam class, and the path to Master is to grade exams.  Seems legit.  ;)
I did a practice run last night for kicks using APA. It took me 15 minutes to write, in narrative style, everything I knew about APA. Then I looked it over and realized I forgot stats and comparison.

So stats only on the recipe question? Just those 12 styles? Is that because you are describing the stats in narrative form in the style questions?

Does anyone know the percentage (odds) of getting a 95%? At my age I have to rely on smarts... I'm figuring I'll be lucky to get an 80% on the tasting retake. That means I need a 95 on the written.

General Homebrew Discussion / Master is too weak of a word
« on: March 29, 2016, 02:41:04 AM »
Holy smokes. So I thought I'd try to start studying for the BJCP written in hopes that sometime next year I might retest the tasting portion,  and if I do well maybe take the written.  I think I got some sticker shock when I realized that to score at the master level, among a multitude of other knowledge you must have, you also have to know OG, FG, IBU, SRM, hop aroma, malt aroma, fermentation aroma, appearance, hop malt and fermentation flavor, mouthfeel, historical significance, a classic example, and differences and similarities of 80 different beer styles.

I... aye yai yai... I'm going to try. But I'm not sure I've got the brain pan for this.

Kudos to Master judges! My hat is off to you!

Homebrew Competitions / Re: 2016 NHC
« on: March 28, 2016, 06:34:08 PM »
Got mine today. Excellent score sheets. Both beers got judged by grand masters who both gave the higher score. I'm pleased and planning improvements already!

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
« on: March 28, 2016, 02:42:36 PM »
Joe Sr, I should be shipping next week. I've got to get to town and procure something local and interesting to toss in the box.

Homebrew Competitions / Re: 2016 NHC
« on: March 28, 2016, 02:33:48 PM »
For sure! Having one advance in a year that you can be there at the banquet would make it even more fun. Which Terri and I hope to do next year!

Next year should be a 'flyover' state year, I believe.  Fingers crossed that I get at least one through this year since I'm going to be in Baltimore.
That's what I was thinking. Time will tell

Homebrew Competitions / Re: 2016 NHC
« on: March 28, 2016, 02:32:51 PM »
Nicely done Jim, and Darkside, you CRUSHED IT!!!  4/4 is incredible.  Looking forward to see what everyone's scores are like. Congratulations!
Thanks! I realize it's nearly meaningless to most brewers but it's a huge milestone to me. Next year I'll be all in LOL

If moving on is meaningless, I don't know what to say.  Congrats to you.

I'm still pleased with my 1st round third place stout from last year, but hopeful for another one or two to advance this year.
Maybe not meaningless, but I think we have some brewers here who go to finals routinely.

Yes, but even getting into the final round routinely brings lots of disappointments. At least it has for me, for years. I look at it as a fun way to compete with some of the best brewers in the country and if I can get at least one beer through to the final round, then that makes it all the more exciting.
For sure! Having one advance in a year that you can be there at the banquet would make it even more fun. Which Terri and I hope to do next year!

Congratulations Jim!

I've got a 3rd place American Barleywine moving on with your Stout!

Couldn't help myself

War2112-Welcome back! Good news is it's still water,grain,hops, and yeast....just a whole lot more options

Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Guinness Nitro IPA
« on: March 28, 2016, 04:06:41 AM »
Decided to try a second can of this stuff, after I had a pour of my fresh on tap IPA first. I think they maybe mislabeled it. If Guiness Nitro IPA is an IPA, then Boston Lager is an American Barley Wine, and Negro Modelo is an Imperial Stout.

If stiring with sharp edged paddle killed all yeast, I would quit buying sanitizer

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
« on: March 27, 2016, 04:36:56 PM »

By the way, we sampled the Challenge beer the other day and I would say that it is a classic example of someone's very first attempt at brewing, LOL.

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