« on: June 26, 2015, 04:06:59 PM »
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Precisely. Id even add Wyeast 1728 Scottish. Those guys will ferment nice n clean way down low, like 50F, and pretty cleanly.Well, but... lets take a ridiculous extreme. If I ferment with trapist yeast but cold store for a couple months, it ain't going to taste lagery. So my money is on lager yeast. But final product taste is really all that matters.
For sure. When I say 'ale' yeast, I am referring to something like 1007, 1056, US05, etc...
Ok so to go off topic. Has anyone ever experienced a sort of "dirty sock/feet odor" taste in a lager? I know that may sound weird...I don't know how to describe a taste as the way something actually smells...That could be isovalaric (sp?) acid, caused by certain bacteria in the presence of oxygen and stuff found in wort (not to sound too scientific). If its sulfur you're smelling some lager yeast strains throw that more than others. But stink feet is usually isovalaric
I have had a few commercial lagers over the years that had this distinct flavor to me but not to anyone else with me. Basically undrinkable and I have always referred to them as "feet beers". My current lager has just a very slight impression of this characteristic however I think it is something that I may just be sensitive to and not necessarily an off flavor.
I don't really brew for competitions, so I've stayed out of this conversation so far. But I keep hearing this issue come up every year. I do have a few thoughts on the issue, many of which have already been stated or implied by others.Refreshing and thoughtful
- Homebrew clubs come in all shapes and sizes. By this fact alone, there is no way to define a set of rules that won't favor certain clubs more than others. No matter what you do to the rules, someone is always going to see it as unfair.
- I am not a member of the BN club, but I think it is awesome that they are able to compete (and be successful) as a club despite not being a club in the traditional sense. As times change, more and more of us aren't able to join traditional clubs, either because of geography, careers or family. As many others have stated, I consider this forum to be my homebrew club. Even if I had a local club that met next door to me, I'd have a hard time making it to regular meetings.
- For reasons stated above, I intend to enter some competitions this year (including the NHC) under the newly formed AHA Forum Club. I think that having the ability to compete as part of a non-traditional club is important and I intend to support that.
- If you're so über-competitive that you feel the need to boo your fellow homebrewers when you lose, then you need to RDWHAHB. Oh, and you're a jerk, too.
- I was very disappointed by the lack of dick jokes in Justin's post. The internet led me to believe that the BN was just a bunch of misogynists making dick jokes. Shame on you internet; I trusted you.
Screw it. I belong to two, and half belong to a third, awesome clubs. I live 1800 miles from my "home club" that I would enter under. I normally don't enter because I feel it is a waste of money and effort to pay entry and shipping. Next year I will enter my max under BN Army with my buddy Jim. I might have my wife brew some and enter her max as well.Welcome aboard soldier!
The BN Army is a club if they want to be a club. They don't need a board, a charter, a constitution, articles of incorporation, dues, or a meeting to be a club. The only requirement to be a club should be a group of brewers that share a common bond and have a desire to be together as one.
I don't think a rule change is needed. If a club wants to win, that club needs to increase their numbers and brew better beer. First round ribbons should count as it took a good beer to get that ribbon. Add a "National Homebrew Competition" to the front of the title and call it a day.
It's 5o'clock somewhereBy the way PTE just won best beer, AGAIN! Feel free to join the BN and read my rant about that over there.
I just saw that and said, "Jim must be drinking early today"