Liberty and Magnum do well here in Sothern California. I've used Liberty in a number of lagers, ales, and Ambers.
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For me, I can taste a bit too much of the alcohol
that's what I recall about this one - but I will be buying again - supposedly, it will be in 12oz 4packs this year?
Rodenbach Vin de Cereale is amazing at 10%, but the sour is far from subtle.