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The Pub / Re: West Sixth vs Magic Hat
« on: May 23, 2013, 08:17:38 AM »
More FWIW - West Sixth posted on their site/FB in response to the distributor portion;
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You said that “talks between the two breweries started in September of 2012 after marketplace concerns surfaced by a Kentucky wholesaler who refused to carry West Sixth Brewing because he felt it too closely resembled Magic Hat.” Unfortunately, that isn’t true at all. We have two distributors who distribute both us and Magic Hat without any sort of confusion. We’re sorry that this is what you were told. What actually happened between us and your distributor is this: After we had advanced negotiations to sign with your distributor they were told by another brand they carry that they should not distribute our beer.

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The Pub / Re: West Sixth vs Magic Hat
« on: May 23, 2013, 08:10:43 AM »
Whatcha got in mind?

If I were West Sixth after all this shakes out I would put something like this on each label/can:
"not to be confused with a brewery in Vermont owned by a company in NY ran by a group out of Costa Rica"
 8)

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The Pub / Re: West Sixth vs Magic Hat
« on: May 23, 2013, 08:04:17 AM »
FWIW - I never said anyone was dense, I said they were artistic.  ;D

Actually the lawsuit calls for a jury trial. So they would have to convince a jury. Not sure how many sit on a Federal Jury, but if I was one of the jurors we'd probably deadlock.  :-\

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The Pub / Re: West Sixth vs Magic Hat
« on: May 23, 2013, 06:23:31 AM »
Maybe it's the engineer in me, but I still don't see it. From what I've noticed those with an artistic background see some resemblance (seems to be about 20% of the people), the rest know the difference between a 6 and a 9.  ;)

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What I find interesting is an email I got in my brewing news email this morning. Magic Hat said yesterday they were no longer going to comment on social media, but then they send out a press release which includes:
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It is our position that West Sixth has not only infringed on our trademarks, but has also taken steps to damage our brand.
So we won't comment on Facebook, but an email campaign is fine???
The really interesting thing about the note is this is the first email I have ever received from Magic Hat and their marketing group - Mower.


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The Pub / Re: West Sixth vs Magic Hat
« on: May 22, 2013, 02:13:36 PM »
I still cannot see any lie. They tried to reach and agreement, but MH or their lawyers, were never agreeable, it was always another stipulation if you read the documents. Then MH filed a lawsuit so they went to social media and it appears to have brought MH back to the table. Seems more like the truth to me...YMMV


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The Pub / Re: West Sixth vs Magic Hat
« on: May 22, 2013, 02:05:35 PM »
I read all the legal documents and in the end it appeared MH was never going to allow them to use a 6 without the words beside it and as far as I could tell they did not want to allow them to use up existing merchandise and can stock. They kept giving 30 day ultimatums. If it were me I would have fought it tooth and nail and would have enjoyed spending the money to fight it, but I'm scrappy like that. ;)

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The Pub / Re: West Sixth vs Magic Hat
« on: May 22, 2013, 01:50:05 PM »
Did a little research on the person who made the comment. Seems like he has a beer blog and one of his buddies works (or worked) at Magic Hat based on his comments.
http://kentuckybrewreview.wordpress.com/2010/12/12/hops-for-the-holidays/

No matter what you gotta admit this is funny:

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The Pub / Re: West Sixth vs Magic Hat
« on: May 22, 2013, 01:35:39 PM »
Hold on a second, let's pick apart carefully where you guys are seeing West Sixth lied about anything.

They said:
"In fact, we tried to reach out to them individually to see if there was any way to resolve the amicably, but to no surprise, no one ever called us back."

I've seen a bunch of legal documents from some Kentucky Law firm and a lawsuit from a TN law firm, but nada from anyone in Vermont or New York. So I'm having a hard time finding the lie.

I'd also like to see the article from 2 years ago concerning the logo. I though the firm started doing business in April 2012 so I'm scratching my head about an article showing similarity from 2011??? Clue me in.

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The Pub / Re: West Sixth vs Magic Hat
« on: May 22, 2013, 06:33:50 AM »
Maybe posting a side by side of the logos with the West Sixth Brewing logo inverted will help.

Perhaps someone can explain how they look similar other than the blob at the bottom of the 9 and top of the 6? The 6 is closed and has different line weights than the 9 which is not closed. The dingbat on the 9 is a dingbat and the 6 is a star and the colors are different. I just don't see how the two can be confused. Good on West Sixth for not caving to the pressure.


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The Pub / Re: West Sixth vs Magic Hat
« on: May 22, 2013, 04:42:56 AM »

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The Pub / Re: West Sixth vs Magic Hat
« on: May 21, 2013, 03:22:14 PM »
Doesn't look anything like it to me. Line weight is different. 9 doesn't connect the loop, I would never mistake the two.

Anyway, I do love me some internet in case anyone wants to have some email fun!

Mod Edit - Do a search you can find the contact info for the companies out there... otherwise - zoink.

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The Pub / Re: West Sixth vs Magic Hat
« on: May 21, 2013, 02:50:55 PM »
They suck, their beers mostly suck, I think I'll have some fun on Facebook. Thanks for the link!

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The Pub / Re: Oh what a tangled web we weave...
« on: May 20, 2013, 01:12:42 PM »
It's actually a rebate coupon for a produce purchase.

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At one time I was a fanboy of the Blue Moon Pale Moon. Then they started calling it Blue Moon Belgian-Style Pale Ale and it changed.
http://mashbang.wordpress.com/2012/05/13/over-the-moon/

Recently I noticed they have renamed it again and are calling it Rounder.
http://www.bluemoonbrewingcompany.com/OurBeers/product/Blue-Moon-Brand-Rounder

The alcohol has gone up 0.2%, but otherwise looks like the BSPA to me.
http://beerpulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/BlueMoonRounderBelgianPale12ozBody.png

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All Things Food / Re: Fermenting Crock
« on: May 20, 2013, 08:17:05 AM »
My grandmother always used a crock(may have been a Red Wing) with a plate and a rock. $125 sounds expensive to me.

http://www.amazon.com/Ohio-Stoneware-Gallon-Preserving-Crock/dp/B002P4RISG/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1369062966&sr=8-13&keywords=fermenting+crock

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