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Homebrew Clubs / Re: Club Night 2017
« on: June 22, 2017, 05:14:46 PM »
Well we had a blast at club night.  Not sure if anyone from this thread stopped by, but we were pretty busy most of the night.  Our beers were really well received, and we have 4 of our kegs pop.  We're trying to figure out the logistics for Portland, so that we can serve again next year.

unfortunately despite sharing a "wall" I never stopped by.  Busy busy.

As I doubt KCBM will bring all that stuff to Portland, I could probably help you out next year if your club decides to try to serve again.  I'll be doing an extended road trip and be looking for a spot to pour anyway.
cheers--
--Michael
Which club booth was it?  I stopped by all of them for at least a little while.
Schemy was on the Nebraska side of the quad, while I was on the Kansas City side, usually functioning as bar-back keeping things filled. Most of the KC mead and all of the cider being poured were mine, though the lucky few there early got two delicious Amanda meads.
I dare say that anyone who had a Mead-hattan or mead-jito or Negroni Mead that night probably had something of mine.  8)

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Homebrew Clubs / Re: Club Night 2017
« on: June 22, 2017, 08:52:08 AM »
Well we had a blast at club night.  Not sure if anyone from this thread stopped by, but we were pretty busy most of the night.  Our beers were really well received, and we have 4 of our kegs pop.  We're trying to figure out the logistics for Portland, so that we can serve again next year.

unfortunately despite sharing a "wall" I never stopped by.  Busy busy.

As I doubt KCBM will bring all that stuff to Portland, I could probably help you out next year if your club decides to try to serve again.  I'll be doing an extended road trip and be looking for a spot to pour anyway.
cheers--
--Michael

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The Pub / Re: HomeBrew Con 2018
« on: June 20, 2017, 08:10:06 AM »
What was the turnout this year?
Gary G said 2437 on Tuesday. Could have gone up a few with last minute purchases. Still the 5th largest conference, and 1100 more than the last time in Minneapolis.

I expect Portland OR to be well attended.

I guess it wasn't my imagination...it did seem lighter this year than in the past.

I miss the banquet.  Not so much for the food, but the hanging out in line and sharing beers ahead of time and then the passing bottles around yours and neighbor's tables.  Was this a one time thing, or is the banquet dead forever?  If this is the format going forward, I'm going to start booking my flights home on Saturday after the awards ceremony.  Sure would beat getting up at 4am like I did this year. :P

The knockout party was a waste of time in my opinion.  Couldn't understand anything being announced and I was right up by the stage.  I would have preferred a social club setting with all the leftover comp bottles rather than having them poured by staff, but maybe that was a legal thing.  An so much Whalezbrah! left over.

I get why the banquet didn't happen, but let me be just the first to b**** about climbing over a bunch of fellow overweight dudes and their 600 coolers in order to make it to an aisle to pick up a medal.  At least it wasn't full and people didn't have to sit in the middle of rows.

I didn't mind the Knockout Party but I don't know why they kept winners out of it at first.  Eventually most of us just walked in.

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Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Got an unusual offer today in my email
« on: June 20, 2017, 05:36:29 AM »
I would definitely put a sticker on riceral's vehicle for $6K.    ;D

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: HBC
« on: June 18, 2017, 03:00:47 AM »
Congrats to Michael W. Well done!
I saw that too. Congrats Michael

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Guess I'm pretty decent.
Glad to talk/drink with so many of you again; see you in Portland. That's near where I grew up so another long road trip and bringing stuff to pour is in the plans.
Cheers--
Michael

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The Pub / Re: What is the Purpose of this Forum?
« on: June 09, 2017, 11:15:31 AM »


thanks for the clarification, and, we're cool.

cheers--
--Michael

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The Pub / Re: What is the Purpose of this Forum?
« on: June 09, 2017, 06:59:35 AM »
re.

I also would ask everyone to keep in mind that not every homebrewer is pulling down a mid-six-figure income or has infinite brewing space and electrical capacity or infinite time...my sense is that this little piece of demographic information is sometimes where things go off the rails. I greatly admire those who create amazing beer using inexpensive improvised systems--that takes _real_ skill!

A big plus one from! This is exactly how I feel. I'm not a rich man and cant afford the best of everything. I don't have 4k lying around to drop on a shiny new electric HERMS. But, I built a very nice electric system for a couple hundred bucks. Did I use cheap Chinese PID's? Yes. But they work just fine and I paid $15 for them. I didn't have $160 to spend on a March pump. But my little $15 Chinese one works just fine for what I need it to do. So go ahead and be down on a brewer because he doesn't have an infinite money tree. But I can tell you one thing, by building it yourself and having to source parts on a budget, you know your rig inside and out. If it breaks, you know exactly how to fix it.  And, there's so much more satisfaction in drinkning a great beer that you made with your own equipment.

Threads going off the rails has ZERO to do with equipment.

yeah I didn't understand that one.  Surely someone is not saying that pictures of someone's fancy brew rig makes people without such equipment feel unwelcome? 

And the whole insinuation that the equipment takes the place of skill was uncalled for.

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The Pub / Re: What is the Purpose of this Forum?
« on: June 07, 2017, 09:54:08 AM »
The average level of expertise in homebrewing seems to have declined.  I assume this is due to A) the AHA casting a wider net and getting more people who aren't necessarily as "Beer Is Life" as some of us old guard, and B) many many people who are good at this have gone pro.  A) isn't a bad thing, but it does change the makeup of the hobby. Way more people are casual about this now.   B) has lead to even more great availability of commercial beer, which just reinforces the casual nature many homebrewers already have.

Your point A is a little flipped from what seems to be in the marketing and demo data that's being pulled. It's not that the AHA is casting a wider net and getting shallower interest - it's that the general interest pool is shallower. The data all points to plenty of people enjoying the idea of making beer, but fewer, particularly younger, folks wanting to make homebrewing their "lifestyle" ala us older brewers.

But then again, this is the same war fought over a wider and more visible battle ground than before. I can troll back through club newsletters from the 1970's and 80's and see the same *grr argh* "not taking this serious enough" angst including the classic - if you're brewing extract, you're not a real brewer. Thing is, this hobby has always been a majority extract brewers even in today's high gear/information availability age.

I don't know. I have fun with this hobby even if sometimes the personalities are a bit much. I prefer to operate from a guiding principle of kindness, which is not everyone's north star as evidenced by all the hackles being raised around here.

Seriously, let's practice the Wheaton Law (link) and not be proof of John Gabriel's Greater Internet f##kwad Theory (link)

Step back, take a deep breath, blah, blah, blah... ffs

I'm not sure how to take the last part, but I'm not going to spend any more time worrying about it.

A little more clarification on how point A) is "flipped" would probably help too.  We are getting people that weren't interested in homebrewing before, right?  More women, more young people, more non-engineers?  That's good, unless you're refuting that.  But people aren't spending as much on "stuff" at the stores, and not spending as long in the hobby, correct?  Meanwhile a whole lot of people have gone pro. Also good (for them at least). I've never tried to make people less enthusiastic than myself unwelcome in this hobby and in fact as stated have actively done the opposite.  But I still prefer to spend my time with my own peeps - people I can relate to, have things in common with, have known for years.  My brewing family, basically.

...and a great many have disappeared.

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The Pub / Re: What is the Purpose of this Forum?
« on: June 07, 2017, 06:34:43 AM »
lack of civility has been discussed, no need for me to reiterate other than to say I agree.

Lack of technical content - yeah the internet loves to disagree.  The tiring requests for "link??" with anything I say that people disagree with.  Or I often get asked "how would you make that with x shortcut or saving x amount of dollars/time?"  ...I wouldn't.  I'm only an expert at what *I* do; if you want shortcuts go research them yourself.  I'll tell you what I do and you take it from there.  If you don't taste a difference, by all means don't decoct.  I do and I do. 

The average level of expertise in homebrewing seems to have declined.  I assume this is due to A) the AHA casting a wider net and getting more people who aren't necessarily as "Beer Is Life" as some of us old guard, and B) many many people who are good at this have gone pro.  A) isn't a bad thing, but it does change the makeup of the hobby. Way more people are casual about this now.   B) has lead to even more great availability of commercial beer, which just reinforces the casual nature many homebrewers already have.

Along with the avg skill or experience level going down and the lack of technical content comes many many questions from newbies.  And while in general I support the ideal of helping them out, when you see the same questions repeated over and over and you know thousands of web pages already exist that answer them, well...you get tired of it.  I've taught dozens of people to brew at my home.  I've passed along knowledge online sometimes too.  And I'm over it.  I'm largely self-taught, and I yeah I guess I wish others had a little more of that mentality. 
Then there's the questions I can't answer.  I can't look at your pic or read your description of "it just tastes weird" and tell you what went wrong.  Do a full description of your process and send me a bottle and I've got a pretty good chance to help you.

anyway, as a result I don't spend much time here anymore.  Like NHC it's a place to hang out and chat with friends. *shrug*
--Michael


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Other Fermentables / Re: First Mead
« on: May 31, 2017, 06:40:55 AM »
ugh, this reminds me that I made a no-water-added Alpine Strawberry/Tupelo and managed to bury the Tupelo character.  About $100/gallon for alcoholic strawberry jam.   :'(

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Other Fermentables / Re: Ciders with brett
« on: May 23, 2017, 09:15:31 AM »
let me be a little more specific than when I said sulfite needs are highly dependent on pH: 

You need almost 10x as much at pH 4.0 as you do at pH of 3.0.  And at the high end you are quickly becoming undrinkable burning matchstick juice.

I don't have a cider chart handy but google something like "sulfite wine chart" to get numbers.  And know your pH.

If the sanitation problem is happening early on then I suppose an initial sulfite dose could help.  But better to just fix the problem, sulfite after fermentation and keep things clean. 

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Other Fermentables / Re: Ciders with brett
« on: May 23, 2017, 06:43:29 AM »
Cider can certainly be prone to infection.  Some microbes target sugar, others malic acid, etc.

You can sulfite your fermentation but the amount necessary is highly dependent on pH.
If this is happening in primary then you've got a sanitation problem if that is the juice you're using.  With store bought mass produced juice you will be unlikely to have the things necessary in the juice that produce spicy/smoky phenolics when interacting with lactobacillus strains, so I do agree it sounds more like brett than unintended malolactic fermentation.

If this is happening after fermentation is complete then acidifying and sulfiting may help you.

if I'm making a fairly "boring" one-note cider with plain juice then I would increase acidity and alcohol level.  Make it more of a borderline applewine.  Higher alcohol will help protect it.  Usually this involves adding white sugar but if I've got a low sugar juice then my preference is actually to slightly freeze concentrate it. I target 1.058 and above for everything I make.  1.065 is preferable.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 2017 NHC Competition Chat
« on: May 23, 2017, 06:34:07 AM »
Michael, where did you see that?  The "dates and deadlines" page still shows June 1st as the final day.


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Mac,
Yeah the "instructions" on my entry page still says Baltimore, but the Entry Info Tab says:

"Entry Window
Time your shipment to arrive between May 19 and June 2nd. This timing is very important. Late entries may be disqualified."

Could that be last year's site?  I just received an email with June 1 as the last day for receipt of entries....

Look, I'm shipping on Tuesday the 30th.  It'll get to Minn in about 36 hours.  But like everyone else I prefer to have that extra cushion day in case of weather delay.  And I strongly suspect they'll accept boxes that Friday no matter which is the official deadline.  They can do the math on the 3-day weekend as well as anyone.  Baltimore shipping range ended May 27th so this is actually better than it was.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 2017 NHC Competition Chat
« on: May 22, 2017, 08:03:17 PM »
Michael, where did you see that?  The "dates and deadlines" page still shows June 1st as the final day.


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Mac,
Yeah the "instructions" on my entry page still says Baltimore, but the Entry Info Tab says:

"Entry Window
Time your shipment to arrive between May 19 and June 2nd. This timing is very important. Late entries may be disqualified."

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 2017 NHC Competition Chat
« on: May 22, 2017, 07:12:23 AM »
how about one day extension of the deadline for shipping to June 2?
Gives people a much better chance to ship after the three-day holiday weekend and still get it there.


Agreed -- The timing of the deliveries is particularly problematic this year, due to the Memorial Day weekend - if you want to send them as close as possible to the end of the entry period, either you send the entries in mid-week the week before (and hope for the best in terms of receipt on 5-26 and cold storage prior to Memorial Day weekend) or let them sit in transit (who knows where) over Memorial Day weekend for delivery on or after 5-29, or hope that they can be sent on 5-29 for delivery on 6-1 (with no delivery glitches).  Or you RDWHAHB and send them early and live with the handling and storage on the other end...I may just opt for the latter and hope for the best, despite not re-brewing my entries.  Hey, I'm just happy to be advancing a beer at this point.

 

entry deadline now says June 2nd, so if John was reading what we said, thanks.

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