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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC 2014
« on: April 08, 2014, 09:57:56 AM »
Cat 26 - 3 in KC, all high enough to advance.
Cat 24 - 5 in KC, all 35 or higher.
cider categories each had 6-7 and I believe 8 melomels showed up in KC.
Too bad - I'd like to see more ciders/meads entered.

I judged 11 Pilsners and I believe there were 11 Dark Lagers, 12 Amber Lagers and low teens Light Lagers.

There are fewer of us lager brewers but there's a bunch of really skilled people making them.  I suspect the same goes for mead/cider but even more pronounced.  So it's not poor competition but there's no worry of getting lost in a cloud of hops at one table or dominated by 40 imperial stouts at another.

good luck to everyone that advanced and those that haven't been judged yet.

cheers--
--Michael

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC 2014
« on: April 08, 2014, 08:15:41 AM »

Will first round entries per category per site be posted?

they were last year and I suspect will be again. 

...man, 90 IPAs.  that's a lot of disappointed brewers of great beer. 
I would be the first to admit I focused on categories with less insane competition levels.  2x Dark lager, 2x Cider.

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Events / Re: Pro Brewers "NIGHT"
« on: April 08, 2014, 05:30:06 AM »
I like club night when the clubs aren't beer dumping. If they only have five great beers, then serve five. No need to bring 20 when 15 are less than stellar. IMO I should not have to dump a club night beer because it has major flaws. YMMV.

man, I'd love the imagination and wackiness of Club Night with the quality level of Pro Night.  So yes, put out your best!

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC 2014
« on: April 08, 2014, 05:26:27 AM »
naturally my little-too-roasty schwarzbier that medaled last year was the one that didn't qualify this year.  I guess everyone else stepped up their game.   8)

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC 2014
« on: April 07, 2014, 09:34:32 AM »
I had 4 in, and while none were under 30, none advanced. Two went to mini-BOS, but did not advance. Both of those were scored at 40.5, so there were even better beers on the table. Not the first time we have struck out, but there is always next year. Just have to brew a little better next year.


great scores.  sounds like tough competition.  What categories were they?

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC 2014
« on: April 07, 2014, 08:36:00 AM »
Amanda, I recall that the 2013 KC site was also well run.  I considered requesting it this year but thought that it might be too far from NC.  Definitely going to be requesting it in 2015 after seeing how well run it was the last couple years.

Both times ran by Steve Cook as site director (duxx20 on here).

runs a tight ship.  Really cares about this competition.  Hopefully he'll get the votes for AHA GC next year...

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Noob judge observations
« on: April 07, 2014, 06:11:44 AM »
I had little idea of what to expect for quality or scores. After 8 or so Stouts, 10 or so Porters, and a dozen American Ales, (a large enough number to get a feel) I found most were fairly well made. Only three or four had serious issues. None were gag reflex undrinkable.  The numbers were what struck me. I didn't keep a tally but most were mid to high 20s. Only about 10% broke the 40 mark. I think our highest was 42. So I now think 35 and up is something to be happy with. I suppose it depends on your level of skill and experience though.

I personally believe that brewers should be happy to receive any score above 29.   A 30 beer is a beer that is good enough to sell.  The difference between a 30 beer and a 40 beer is usually style guideline related, not beer quality related.

I started to disagree, but then realized that is only because I am a judge.  I'm sure someone's going to take this the wrong way, but with a few exceptions I view a 30 on one of my beers as a waste of an entry fee.  My personal goal for some time has required a 36 to be satisfied.  But then, people use so little of the scale perhaps I need to adjust.  So, long story short, I sort of agree.

cheers--
--Michael

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC 2014
« on: April 04, 2014, 03:53:33 PM »
For those who were judged already, are the results posted under your login at www.brewingcompetition.com ?

I got my scores in the mail today from KC.  I have not seen them posted in entry site, or anywhere else yet. 

On a happy note - got two through (Dortmunder and Mild) :)

just spoke to the person I know won Category 9; his cover sheet wasn't marked either.  I think it's pretty safe to say you finished 3rd/should brew that 70/- again.
congrats--
--Michael

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Events / Re: Pro Brewers "NIGHT"
« on: April 04, 2014, 09:24:03 AM »
maybe an example of something attendees may experience that wasn't available in previous years would help with the mentality Fred mentioned.  Will pros be pouring beer in seminars?  Taking shifts in the social club?  wandering among the throng gathered outside the banquet area pouring their beers?

Pro Night was a known, while the changes are an unknown.
just sayin'

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC 2014
« on: April 03, 2014, 01:08:50 PM »
For those who were judged already, are the results posted under your login at www.brewingcompetition.com ?

I got my scores in the mail today from KC.  I have not seen them posted in entry site, or anywhere else yet. 

On a happy note - got two through (Dortmunder and Mild) :)

first or third for the mild?  both were very good...
congrats

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC 2014
« on: April 03, 2014, 07:43:56 AM »
Hey all, I'm the KC NHC site director

too bad the voting didn't last one more week...your and your team's excellent performance in the First Round might have gotten you more Governing Committee votes.  or maybe you didn't need any more.   8)

thanks for your hard work--
--Michael

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC 2014
« on: April 03, 2014, 06:23:31 AM »
34 is a good result for anyone and very good for someone without a lot of competition experience.

I advanced one in 2nd at 36 this year and was cobrewer on another that advanced in 3rd at 36.  won a couple categories with 38 and 39.

I don't know the score of the 1st place entry in Cat 18, but my coworker had the 2nd place Dubbel that scored 37.
...you're not far off at all.  Nice job!

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: HB Competitions
« on: April 03, 2014, 06:13:05 AM »
I will say what I said last year:

Janis was IN THE ROOM last year when they announced the results in KC. 

...Does it get more legitimate than that?

They announced the results in Tulsa last year too.  You have to be there, or know someone who heard your name, or wait for the scoresheets to be mailed if you are not there (I grabbed most of the Wichita scoresheets and handed them out Monday).

anyone who was at a regional where they refused to announce the winners was volunteering at a region where they did not know the rules.  I suspect Janis will show up again to confirm that they are supposed to announce.  It is posting online that they are not supposed to do.

tDS - yes, both my ciders advanced.

cheers--
--Michael

P.S. - a few top 3 placings were missed on the cover sheet even in KC last year.  I had a couple stewards annoyed at me because I was doing it myself this year, so for the final flight I let them handle everything.  When it came time to sort the scoresheets, guess which flight the steward had neglected to put the top 3 on?   ::)

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: HB Competitions
« on: April 02, 2014, 12:28:25 PM »
So, 30 is a solid score?  Honestly asking, as I have no idea.

Entered my first comp about a month ago so my frame of reference is limited.

I know 13 is B.A.D. but 30 sounds like it's more middle of the road than outstanding.
Minimum to advance is 30.

A solid score, to me at least, is 38 and above. 40s is real solid.

Edit -

I'd go a bit lower for Solid and Real Solid when evaluating how entries did.  probably 33 for Solid. 
35 for Good.  38 often wins a category.  I'd like to see people judge a little higher, but I know I've done it too.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: HB Competitions
« on: April 02, 2014, 11:59:07 AM »
Either way you'll get scoresheets by mail. The top 3 beers in each category from each region go to the final round in June. If you are one of those winners you get instructions to submit the next set of bottles.

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top 3, and have to score minimum of 30.

to the OP, you could actually volunteer in Denver and at the end hear whether you advanced or not.  Some regions are faster than others, but generally they don't take too long to be mailed.  KC mailed yesterday or today.


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