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Kegging and Bottling / Re: My First Lager
« on: April 16, 2014, 10:03:38 AM »
you'll have plenty of yeast left to do the job w/o adding more.

once carbed you'll likely need a little cold conditioning time to get it perfectly clean again, but it won't take long.

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC
« on: April 16, 2014, 08:20:12 AM »
did some stats yesterday.  if the other 8 had as many empty spots as the first 4, we'd have a SMALLER competition than last year (and the year before).  would be crazy to add 1500 spots over two years but not have any growth in the end.

...but I expect the others will be more full, and we'll have modest growth.

on pace for 780 IPAs.  biggest category ever appears to be 630 Stouts in 2012/Seattle. 

on pace for near record low numbers of meads (well, over last 10 years at least).  would expect more from some of the upcoming regions.
*random thought* - with so little interest could we maybe add some incentive to enter these?  Like instead of "4 entry limit" say "3 beers/3 meads or ciders and 4 total entries is the limit" - just a thought.

In the 4 regions I found 8 people who had advanced 3 entries.  One of them with just mead.
Re: Ninkasi, last year dbarber advanced 4, and 2nd and 3rd/4th place advanced 3, and 8/3 respectively.  So there's still hope for multiple medal winners I guess.

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC
« on: April 16, 2014, 07:58:20 AM »
did some stats yesterday.  if the other 8 had as many empty spots as the first 4, we'd have a SMALLER competition than last year (and the year before).  would be crazy to add 1500 spots over two years but not have any growth in the end.

...but I expect the others will be more full, and we'll have modest growth.

on pace for 780 IPAs.  biggest category ever appears to be 630 Stouts in 2012/Seattle. 

on pace for near record low numbers of meads.  would expect more from some of the upcoming regions.
*random thought* - with so little interest could we maybe add some incentive to enter these?  Like instead of "4 entry limit" say "3 beers/3 meads or ciders and 4 total entries is the limit" - just a thought.

In the 4 regions I found 8 people who had advanced 3 entries.  One of them with just mead.
Re: Ninkasi, last year dbarber advanced 4, and 2nd and 3rd/4th place advanced 3, and 8/3 respectively.  So there's still hope for multiple medal winners I guess.

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC
« on: April 15, 2014, 08:00:23 PM »
(he saw the explanation, and in retrospect I should have sent it as a PM, so I'll delete that part.  Guy makes great beer obviously.)

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC
« on: April 14, 2014, 05:22:31 AM »
So if you cover sheet had the Mini-BoS box checked but no place was awarded that means your entry was one of the finalists for the category but it didn't finish first, second, or third.  Additional details about Mini-BoS can be found here - http://www.bjcp.org/docs/MiniBOS.pdf 

Hope this helps.

or, it wasn't marked.  I suggest we make this a focus for next year.  They should be marked and double checked before they go out.

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All Things Food / Re: Growing food - The Garden Thread
« on: April 14, 2014, 05:19:13 AM »
growing stuff in the Midwest is exasperating.
80F at 2pm yesterday, everything growing like crazy.
currently 30F and an inch of snow on the ground.  Definite hard freeze tonight.

hopefully this is the last one of these of the spring.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: National Homebrew Day? legal?
« on: April 11, 2014, 06:18:15 AM »
We don't here in NH but we brew in the parking lot of a homebrew store and nano-brewery, so there's all kinds of issues with that.  I think it's better to be on the safe side rather than get your host into any legal troubles.

I'm curious what kind of issues there are?  "Brewing in the parking lot" means mashing and boiling and chilling, right?  Cooking, basically? 

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Noob judge observations
« on: April 10, 2014, 07:22:26 AM »
You judged 35 different entries in one day or over two days?  Even over two days, that's over 17 beers in a day.  I know you're a newer judge, but most competitions should be striving to keep entries down to 10 - 12 per day (that's an am/pm session) to keep the feedback quality up and judge wear down low.  The checklist style score sheet helps, but not that much....

The competitions that I have worked have had that many entries per flight.

True, but they usually split a large flight between several groups of judges and then do a mini-BOS, correct?

As a judge, it usually takes me about 10 - 15 minutes to evaluate a beer, write up the score sheet (traditional not checklist style), and discuss the entry with the other judge.  This doesn't include the time that it takes to do a mini-BOS either.  I purposefully avoid competitions that treat judges like factory machines to pump out entries.  My point, since this is a thread about Noob judging experiences, was that most competitions don't ask their judges to do 19 entries in a single day like udubdawg did.  Quality feedback should be the priority at competitions, not blowing through large numbers of entries.  How did your hand feel afterwards?

3 hours of driving to KC did a lot more to make my arm sore than the writing.  I put comments on each checklist scoresheet too, though I did see some who did not.

FWIW, next to our table was a table of 12 Amber Lagers.  However they finished first because they had 2 teams doing 6 beers each, and the Dark Lager flight on Saturday also had 2 teams for 11 beers.  11 was not a normal flight length in this competition.  I haven't seen any other categories that asked that of judges.

I've done as many as 14 regular scoresheets in a flight.  Not fun.  In those cases I've pleaded with organizers to set up a third session, get more teams per category, and make the flights short.  breaks help a great deal.  judging 8, lunch, 8, break, 8 is easier than 12, lunch, 12.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Noob judge observations
« on: April 10, 2014, 06:50:18 AM »
35 in a day over 3 flights is certainly more than ideal.  Over 2 days? - no biggie.

This First Round I did 11 pilsners, 8 English Browns one day and 8 Scottish/Irish, 7-8 English Pale, and 5 Straight mead the next.  I was tired, but I attribute that more to the crappy hotel bed and 6 hours of driving.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Noob judge observations
« on: April 09, 2014, 12:14:29 PM »
I started to disagree, but then realized that is only because I am a judge.  I'm sure someone's going to take this the wrong way, but with a few exceptions I view a 30 on one of my beers as a waste of an entry fee.  My personal goal for some time has required a 36 to be satisfied.  But then, people use so little of the scale perhaps I need to adjust.  So, long story short, I sort of agree.

cheers--
--Michael

 ::)

note he said 36, whereas I said 30.
also, note I said MY beers. 

I am extremely capable of judging my own beers.  If they are not up to par, I am not entering them in competitions. 
And yes, there are exceptions with areas I'm far from an expert on...oh, wait, I said THAT too.

...if you're going to attribute something to me, get it right.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC 2014
« on: April 08, 2014, 09:57:56 AM »
Cat 26 - 3 in KC, all high enough to advance.
Cat 24 - 5 in KC, all 35 or higher.
cider categories each had 6-7 and I believe 8 melomels showed up in KC.
Too bad - I'd like to see more ciders/meads entered.

I judged 11 Pilsners and I believe there were 11 Dark Lagers, 12 Amber Lagers and low teens Light Lagers.

There are fewer of us lager brewers but there's a bunch of really skilled people making them.  I suspect the same goes for mead/cider but even more pronounced.  So it's not poor competition but there's no worry of getting lost in a cloud of hops at one table or dominated by 40 imperial stouts at another.

good luck to everyone that advanced and those that haven't been judged yet.

cheers--
--Michael

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC 2014
« on: April 08, 2014, 08:15:41 AM »

Will first round entries per category per site be posted?

they were last year and I suspect will be again. 

...man, 90 IPAs.  that's a lot of disappointed brewers of great beer. 
I would be the first to admit I focused on categories with less insane competition levels.  2x Dark lager, 2x Cider.

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Events / Re: Pro Brewers "NIGHT"
« on: April 08, 2014, 05:30:06 AM »
I like club night when the clubs aren't beer dumping. If they only have five great beers, then serve five. No need to bring 20 when 15 are less than stellar. IMO I should not have to dump a club night beer because it has major flaws. YMMV.

man, I'd love the imagination and wackiness of Club Night with the quality level of Pro Night.  So yes, put out your best!

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC 2014
« on: April 08, 2014, 05:26:27 AM »
naturally my little-too-roasty schwarzbier that medaled last year was the one that didn't qualify this year.  I guess everyone else stepped up their game.   8)

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC 2014
« on: April 07, 2014, 09:34:32 AM »
I had 4 in, and while none were under 30, none advanced. Two went to mini-BOS, but did not advance. Both of those were scored at 40.5, so there were even better beers on the table. Not the first time we have struck out, but there is always next year. Just have to brew a little better next year.


great scores.  sounds like tough competition.  What categories were they?

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