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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 23, 2015, 08:18:25 PM »
Quote from: udubdawg blink=topic=23504.msg301262#msg301262 date=1435111618
How much booing did the rest of you in attendance hear? I didn't hear a lot; less than some of the previous 4 years. I saw some eyerolls; probably did it myself. I heard some comments. Booing? Sounded like a handful.

Thanks to the Brewing Network one can watch the awards ceremony and decide for herself.  It was streamed live and can be viewed on Livestream on most Smart TV's or any TV with a streaming device such as Roku, Chrome Cast, Fire Stick or Apple TV.  It can also be viewed on mobile devices with the Livestream app or at new.Livestream.com.

I did that too; still didn't hear that much, but it was more noticeable than in my seat near the center of the room.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 23, 2015, 07:06:58 PM »
How much booing did the rest of you in attendance hear? I didn't hear a lot; less than some of the previous 4 years. I saw some eyerolls; probably did it myself. I heard some comments. Booing? Sounded like a handful.

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Other Fermentables / Re: Ey! Where you get your honey at?
« on: June 22, 2015, 07:56:39 PM »
Believe it or not, we have access to some wonderful local honey that makes pretty good mead, right here in Lincoln Nebraska.  Actually just outside of Lincoln anyway.  If I remember right it was around $30 for a 1 gallon jug, about 12 pounds.  I decided to give it a try after learning that the BOS mead in the Sowers Cup last year was made with that honey.

Side note, that was a damn fine batch of tupelo mead you entered a few places this year. Been predicting NHC glory for it. Well done.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 20, 2015, 05:52:57 AM »
2 Gold x 6 Points, 1 Silver x 4 Points, 2 Bronze x 2 Points = 20 Final Round Points
Magic Algebra = 65 Total Entries

Now how can that not be the "NHC Champion Club" or whatever we're going to call it? Most final round points, tiebreaker is final round points per entry, and from there you go to the pie-eating contest or whatever it is they do for Ninkasi now.

Would still like to see an objection/ reasoning why this shouldn't be the criteria. 
Anyone?

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The Pub / Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
« on: June 19, 2015, 10:52:13 AM »

I already have just about every book from Brewers Publications outside of Malt, but I do not intend to buy that.

I need to know if this stance changed after the man himself gave you a ride to the airport?!?   ;D

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 19, 2015, 10:30:40 AM »
Back on topic. One way to change the rules is to make the first round points per ribbon worth less than the second round medal. Anyone here that values, no, lusts after a second round medal? I can say that it is easier to ribbon in the first round than medal in the second round. I always sctratched my head at the current point set up.

From the rules page.
Homebrew Club of the Year will be awarded to the club that accumulates the most total points in all categories of beer, mead and cider in the First and Final Rounds. In both the First and Final Rounds, six points are awarded for a first place, four points for a second place and two points for a third place. In the First Round, a club may only receive points for a maximum of three awards per category, the highest three awards shall be counted, not to exceed a 12-point maximum. For your club to receive points the club must be registered with the AHA and you must have included the club name when you registered your entries online. Please check the AHA Club Directory to be sure your club’s AHA registration is up to date.

That seems like a logical, fair place to start.
I had to go to the basement and check my memory. 8 first round ribbons to 2 medals.
The medals get mentioned in conversations, the ribbons not so much.

yeah.  I am near universally confident the medal winners are good.  I don't have the same feeling about all the first round ribbons.  A few categories sometimes don't even have 3 entries. I haven't yet seen a first round region that approaches the quality of a decent sized regional comp like KCBM or Hoppy Halloween.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 19, 2015, 06:18:20 AM »
Quote from: slobrewer pink=topic=23504.msg300425#msg300425 date=1434647807
The NHC COTY is based on blind judging of the beers a club brews.

You mean that it is based on something that is as silly as brewing as a competitive sport.  This thread has only strengthened my belief that the National Homebrew Conference and the National Homebrew Competition need to be separate events like the Craft Brewers Conference and the Great American Beer Festival.  The National Homebrew Competition is too divisive.

Would be interested in your suggestions on how to get 200 judges of high avg rank together without the conference. And if you don't think it is important to entrants that they get good judges, you are fooling yourself.

Also, your example is poor. The CBC holds the World Beer Cup every other year.

I think not having a competition to determine the best beers is "silly" and I'm not exactly alone am I? If you're not interested in it, if the concept is so silly to you, why waste your time in this thread?

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 18, 2015, 11:19:28 AM »
Not that anyone asked, but if we gave COTY to the club with the most Final Round points, it'd be:

2015:  Austin Zealots (5 medals, 20 pts). Runner Up is St Paul, 4 medals and 18 pts.
2014:  WHO (4 medals, 20 pts).  Runner up is Minnesota HBA, 3 medals and 16 pts. 

side note:  I hope they manage to keep the entry limit at 5 or higher, for Ninkasi's sake.

if anyone's got a free afternoon, I'd be curious which other clubs would have won, post Gordon Strong/St Paul 3-peat.

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The Pub / Re: 10 days to exam
« on: June 18, 2015, 09:08:07 AM »
So this morning I was issued BJCP ID #.  Hard to interpret cause it says my rank is still Provisional, with Rank Pending. 

But the BJCP site says Provisional Judge: someone who has passed the Entrance Exam, but not yet taken the Judging Exam. A Provisional Judge is not yet a BJCP member, and does not have a BJCP ID. Provisional is not a BJCP judge rank.

Can this be interpreted as a passing grade?


EDIT:  Never mind, could be apprentice

unfortunately at less than two months from your exam date, it is very likely not done.  From what you've said previously though, you do not have any worries re: passing the exam. 

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 18, 2015, 08:58:50 AM »
I wonder if QUAFF or ASH or the Zealots win next year, does all this talk go away and will it return if the BN wins the following year?

some of it would go away.

some if it would not.  I think you know this.  I'll say for like the 5th time:  I don't care who wins; I want the award to be meaningful.

if BN is out, the award is a landslide in favor of QUAFF until they get bored or some other club gets big enough.  Not meaningful either.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 18, 2015, 08:37:51 AM »
The clubs that I know are about training, sharing, education, encouragement, camaraderie, feedback.  Those are things worth cheering for.

...so I'd say an award for best competition club seems perfectly natural.  *shrug*  but I get that its not for some people.
I agree with your first sentence and come to the opposite conclusion.

The opposite conclusion being that they aren't worth cheering for?

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 18, 2015, 07:57:58 AM »
The clubs that I know are about training, sharing, education, encouragement, camaraderie, feedback.  Those are things worth cheering for.

...so I'd say an award for best competition club seems perfectly natural.  *shrug*  but I get that its not for some people.


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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC 2015 First Round Results
« on: June 18, 2015, 07:52:24 AM »
With the relatively new entry restrictions, it would be fun to see the creation of a new award. Tripple Cown! Medaling in all three groups, Beer Mead and Cider. Not a one winner only thing, but anyone who wins a medal in all three gets a Tripple Crown. With only 4 entries allowed, that would be a heck of a feat. Maybe even more impressive than Ninkasi.

AmandaK will confirm that at the banquet I said "my goal for next year is to win all 4 "Major Awards" and get booed louder than The Brewing Network for hogging all the awards"   ;D

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 18, 2015, 05:22:13 AM »
I just can't give that much weight to the First Round. That's where COTY is won, right?

Way too many subpar beers make it to the Finals. Everything else announced on Saturday was about the Finals, except for that First Round COTY award.  ::)

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There are some basics here you need to understand. I assume you haven't tasted it yet?

It's going to be dry. The amount of character will vary with the source apples, yeast, and fermentation conditions.

I generally find people's first batch of cider is sulfury, needs acid, and is sometimes mousy.  But a few hit home runs right off the bat.

Yes, you can add flavorings; its your cider so do what you want. Some flavorings will fool the best palates, others taste highly artificial.  Understand unless you stabilize your cider the yeast will restart and consume the honey until it is dry again - unless you truly add a boatload of honey to overwhelm the yeast's alc tolerance, and at that point it's cyser, not cider.  When you say you want honey/berry cider...do you want to taste apple? Want it sweet? Carbonated?
...I guess what I'm saying is I can't really tell you specifics until I know you understand the basics of fermentation of an almost completely fermentable product.


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