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we've contacted many, many reps.  Dozens have responded, generally favorably, when presented with the facts and our fairly innocuous goals.  KS Craft Brewers Guild supports us too.  We'll see...

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC
« on: February 04, 2014, 11:25:27 AM »
Hi all,

Thanks for pointing out the repeated rule in the Ninkasi Tiebreaker.  That has been fixed.  Thanks.  The tiebreaker list was the result of the AHA Governing Committee Competition Subcommittee discussions following the 2012 National Homebrew Competition.

Cheers,
Janis

as always, your hard work is appreciated. 
...just my OCD showing up again.

cheers--
--Michael

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC
« on: February 04, 2014, 09:55:51 AM »
Hi all,

The tie-breaker rules for the Ninkasi Award are posted in the NHC Rules & Regulations (http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/competitions/national-homebrew-competition/rules-and-regulations/).  The tie-breaker criteria was expanded last year to account for the increased possibility of ties occurring.

Cheers,
Janis

I assume "C" should say "Silver"...or perhaps is just a typo that the same one was in there twice?
also, I still don't understand why "d" and "f" are basically the opposite...I brought this up with Gary last year.

d) says fewest Final Round entries
f) says most First Round Entries placing, which = most Final Round entries

(f could instead say fewest First Round entries...just a thought.)


Final Round, the following tie-breaker criteria will apply.
a.The number of medals earned in the Final Round will be tallied, and the brewer with the most medals will be declared the winner. If a tie still exists,
b.The number of Gold medals earned in the Final Round will be tallied, and the brewer with the most Gold medals will be declared the winner. In case a tie still exists,
c.The number of Gold medals earned in the Final Round will be tallied, and the brewer with the most Gold medals will be declared the winner. In case a tie still exists,
d.The number of entries qualifying for the Final Round will be tallied for each tying brewer, and the brewer with the fewest entries in the Final Round will be declared the winner. In case a tie still exists,
e.Points will be calculated for tying brewers’ entries that placed in the First Round of the NHC based on the same scale as used in the Final Round. The brewer with the most points in the First Round will be declared the winner. If a tie still exists,
f.The number of entries qualifying for the Final Round will be tallied for each tying brewer, and the brewer with the most entries placing in the First Round will be declared the winner. In case a tie still exists,
g.The total number of entries registered for the First Round of the competition will be tallied for each tying brewer, and the brewer with the fewest registered entries will be declared the winner. If a tie still exists,
h.The winner will be selected using a random selection method. A random method such as rock-paper-scissors, steel cage death match, or a coin flip will be applied at the discretion of the competition organizers to determine the winner.

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC
« on: February 04, 2014, 05:38:29 AM »
True. I'm no authority on the subject for certain. I was more less referring back to when there were repeat winners. I've heard Gordon say that he used to enter like 40+. I'm not questioning his ability at all. But to me it seems obvious that the less entries people can submit, the harder it will be to win Ninkasi

harder, sure.  but at what point will it have any meaning?  We had something like 8 people win two medals last year with a 15-entry limit.  Only 4 people had more than 6 points (the amount you get with one gold medal).
We could very easily have a 23-way tie between the beer gold medalists this year. 

we'll see...

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I may or may not have had lunch with Amanda/broken some laws by delivering some homebrew entries to her today...
 
C'mon Kansas, let's fix this...

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: How long to leave stir plate on
« on: February 01, 2014, 08:23:28 AM »
I do up to 24 hours with the stir plate on, then turn it off and let it finish on its own.  Often it is finished and flocc-ing out well before then.  Either way I leave it at room temp another day or so before it goes in the fridge.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Interesting Judging Phenomenon
« on: January 31, 2014, 11:54:08 AM »
There is also the experiment where they dyed white wine red with a flavourless, odorless dye and tasters were completely taken in.

I did this with an IPA.  amazing how prominent the "roasty" qualities suddenly became to the judges.   ::)

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC
« on: January 31, 2014, 07:47:06 AM »
If it helps at all, we've had ~800 entrants register today in a very leisurely way.  We expect about 3X that amount total for the competition by the end of the week.  I'm really happy about how well this has gone so far.

Cheers,
Janis

how's the interest level been the rest of the week?  I assume we've blasted through previous records for most entrants?

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Clear Beer!
« on: January 30, 2014, 02:16:02 PM »
german pils


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Beer Recipes / Re: Dunkel Recipe - Feedback
« on: January 30, 2014, 11:18:42 AM »
Amanda knows her stuff...

that said, I don't think 4% is gonna hurt you too much here.  I use 3-4% of something closer to 40L in my schwarzbier and from my results would strongly consider bringing it over to a 4B.

for a first lager though, I would go simple, as Amanda suggests.  Especially on her hop advice.

good luck--
--Michael

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Events / Re: NHC 2014 - Lottery System for Registration?
« on: January 30, 2014, 07:58:13 AM »
So what is the most quintessential cuisine for Grand Rapids? 

issues with last year's dinner aside, NHC desserts have been awesome and I hope to see some apple or blueberry or tart cherry represented this year...

speaking of apples, Fred have we got any pro cidermakers showing up? 

damnit now I'm thirsty at 9am.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Clear Beer!
« on: January 29, 2014, 04:13:49 PM »
Vienna, ready (not that dark; lost the sun)

Kolsch, getting close


cheers--
--Michael

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: Herbed Saison
« on: January 28, 2014, 09:55:58 AM »
I think 16E would have the fewest number of entires, and less chance of a pallet wrecker in the mix. Even if combined with all the other Cat 16 styles, I think it would stand out. The base is beer is solid and I think a medal winner on it's own. Dry, slightly tart, and spicy.

But, if I enter into 23A, I can also enter the base in 16C...  :-\

I dunno man...I haven't seen a competition in ages that does not have Category 16 as one of the biggest, mostly due to 16E entries, followed by 16C.

side note:  at the current growth rate Category 16 could catch American Ale/Stout/IPA for most NHC entries very soon.  All 4 were between 560 and 600 last year.

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC
« on: January 28, 2014, 09:15:57 AM »
sweet!
[mad scramble for another 10 KCBM entries]   ;D

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: Herbed Saison
« on: January 28, 2014, 08:32:03 AM »
if the herbs are a major part of the beer and individually noticeable, I'd go with 21A.  I think of 16E as the Belgian version of 23 - where it doesn't fit into just one other category.  Like combining chocolate/fruit/oak aging on a stout, having all of the above noticeable, and moving it to 23.  Note that many people disagree with me here and point to the guidelines.  "Note that many spice-based Belgian specialties may be entered in Category 16E." - to me the key words are Belgian Specialties.  If the beer was 16E without the herbs it is still 16E.  But if it is a classic style base with herbs I put it in 21A, just like if it was a robust porter with herbs or a American pale ale with herbs.

of course, if the herbs just added a little to the overall spicy nature of the beer and blend in well, I might enter as a straight saison, 16C. 

tl;dr:  you'll get a lot of different opinions on possible 16E placement.   ;D

good luck--
--Michael

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