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I always force carbonate my entries. Mostly because it's easiest for me to do it that way. I used to bottle condition my comp entries but I often got hit on appearance and flavor from suspended yeast. Remember you never know what kind of handling your bottles will receive...

In my opinion, those were crappy judges.

I've found it to be more of a problem in mini-BOS on the re-pour.  In that case it's not that the judge is bad, but just that the beer doesn't present the same.  It's hard to take another judge's word that "this beer was way better earlier" when what is in front of you is anything but impressive.

on a side note, I'll reiterate that going to two bottles for the first round of NHC last year is the best change that has been made in years.  Getting a fresh second bottle was awesome.

to the OP, I prefer to force carb if possible, but the longer/warmer the wait between when the beer is filled and when it is judged is, the more my bottle conditioned beers tend to dominate.  It's hard to get all that O2 out of there filling off the keg.

that said though, I believe timing your brewing so that your beers are coming into peak form for a certain competition makes a bigger difference than packaging.

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not sure about this beechum guy.  his Old Ale has been "burbling" for years - I think your fermentation is stuck dude.   ;D



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Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC
« on: February 12, 2014, 10:00:34 AM »
has e-mail, have edited and confirmed.
now Chrome and IE won't let me pay.

meh, will try firefox when I get home.  no panic yet.

...man, like $120K coming into AHA this week.  Gary can buy a new Club Night wig!

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC
« on: February 12, 2014, 09:52:24 AM »
4 in for St Paul......now to decide what 4 to enter.

woah, so maybe I AM entering mead in KC now that I know Scot with one T is not sweeping it.   ;D
(seriously though, you two are killing it lately.  congrats!)

cheers--
--Michael

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC 2014 winner
« on: February 12, 2014, 08:19:24 AM »
"cmack talk" started already - I love it!


I admit it; I'm skeered.
I've pulled out of those categories since the OP has them won. 

...Now if he gets another 700 people to avoid Cats 13 and 14 he should be in great shape.   ;D


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Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC
« on: February 10, 2014, 08:57:32 PM »
max of 4 entries isn't too bad.  feel bad for the 7% who couldn't get in though.
again, popular hobby...

good luck to the 3K+ brewers competing this year!

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: fixing diacetyl in keg?
« on: February 10, 2014, 10:49:05 AM »
It's color right? But they don't contribute to flavor?

In any event I used the wrong word. Then I had to figure out where I got that from. BJCP Scottish guide states kettle caramelizing gets mistaken for Diacetyl...my apologies. Product of distance learning and too eager to share what was not fully learned. I'll keep an eye on that. Stick to what I know, rather than heard.

it's OK.  When I see melanoidins I think "I knew what you meant", especially when we know you are studying for a possible BJCP exam, and we've got style guidelines that use that word in more than one spot:
5C. Doppelbock
Aroma: Very strong maltiness. Darker versions will have significant melanoidins...
Flavor: Very rich and malty. Darker versions will have significant melanoidins...
Comments: Most versions are dark colored and may display the caramelizing and melanoidin effect of decoction mashing...

unless they are REALLY boiling it down they aren't caramelizing either, but I think a good portion of people know what it means when they read it.

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Beer Recipes / Re: 1st Barleywine
« on: February 08, 2014, 03:17:31 PM »
Frank, how many IBU are you targeting?

Denny, I went against the grain of best practice and quit measuring IBUs. I always found that the measurements that I would calculate never satisfied my hop liking. So, I'm looking for a butt load of IBUs... enough so that there will be a solid hop presence after a year of aging.

What about dry hopping after a year? Anybody ever done that?

Also, I'm thinking about stretching the boil out to 2 hours so that I can thin the mash out by about a half gallon.

Yes you can dry hop after a year, and I have done that.

+1
usually with English IPA, but it will work great here too.

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC
« on: February 07, 2014, 09:28:29 AM »
I will say that I'd like to see any random selection methods avoided at all costs. 
I agree. Winning by a coin toss will take away some of the coolness. If I were the winner, I'd rather they just declare it a tie. Or at least recognize all the tied winners and use the coin toss to pick who gets the trophy, but officially call it a tie. It'll work out - in the end we're all making beer!

I see 23 largely bearded and carrying a few extra lbs homebrewers on stage tied for first place.  Janis turns around and throws the Ninkasi bouquet over her shoulder; hilarity ensues. 

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC
« on: February 07, 2014, 09:09:11 AM »
It does make sense though. Two way tie with four golds each, except one of them only sent four and the other had one that was a 13...
I agree it's a fine tiebreaker. But this year the other will not have sent 13. Far more likely to have 4 golds each, and they each sent the max of 5 beers.

Edit: If you send 5 beers to NHC and win 4 gold medals, you're OK in my book.

we haven't heard any numbers, but from previous interest levels it feels more like we'll have three people tied with two silver medals out of the max of 3 entries...

it could still work out though, and it is what it is.  A victim of our hobby's awesomeness/growth.

I will say that I'd like to see any random selection methods avoided at all costs.  if it comes down to that, I'd give it to the person who won the biggest categories before I'd flip a coin.  I have less problem with steel cage matches.   ;D

but that's, just, like, my opinion, man!

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The Pub / Re: Let the Games Begin!
« on: February 06, 2014, 10:35:59 AM »
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304680904579366712107461956?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304680904579366712107461956.html

"Dmitry Kozak, the deputy prime minister responsible for the Olympic preparations, reflected the view held among many Russian officials that some Western visitors are deliberately trying to sabotage Sochi's big debut out of bias against Russia. "We have surveillance video from the hotels that shows people turn on the shower, direct the nozzle at the wall and then leave the room for the whole day," he said. An aide then pulled a reporter away before Mr. Kozak could be questioned further on surveillance in hotel rooms. "

 ;D

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we've contacted many, many reps.  Dozens have responded, generally favorably, when presented with the facts and our fairly innocuous goals.  KS Craft Brewers Guild supports us too.  We'll see...

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC
« on: February 04, 2014, 11:25:27 AM »
Hi all,

Thanks for pointing out the repeated rule in the Ninkasi Tiebreaker.  That has been fixed.  Thanks.  The tiebreaker list was the result of the AHA Governing Committee Competition Subcommittee discussions following the 2012 National Homebrew Competition.

Cheers,
Janis

as always, your hard work is appreciated. 
...just my OCD showing up again.

cheers--
--Michael

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC
« on: February 04, 2014, 09:55:51 AM »
Hi all,

The tie-breaker rules for the Ninkasi Award are posted in the NHC Rules & Regulations (http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/competitions/national-homebrew-competition/rules-and-regulations/).  The tie-breaker criteria was expanded last year to account for the increased possibility of ties occurring.

Cheers,
Janis

I assume "C" should say "Silver"...or perhaps is just a typo that the same one was in there twice?
also, I still don't understand why "d" and "f" are basically the opposite...I brought this up with Gary last year.

d) says fewest Final Round entries
f) says most First Round Entries placing, which = most Final Round entries

(f could instead say fewest First Round entries...just a thought.)


Final Round, the following tie-breaker criteria will apply.
a.The number of medals earned in the Final Round will be tallied, and the brewer with the most medals will be declared the winner. If a tie still exists,
b.The number of Gold medals earned in the Final Round will be tallied, and the brewer with the most Gold medals will be declared the winner. In case a tie still exists,
c.The number of Gold medals earned in the Final Round will be tallied, and the brewer with the most Gold medals will be declared the winner. In case a tie still exists,
d.The number of entries qualifying for the Final Round will be tallied for each tying brewer, and the brewer with the fewest entries in the Final Round will be declared the winner. In case a tie still exists,
e.Points will be calculated for tying brewers’ entries that placed in the First Round of the NHC based on the same scale as used in the Final Round. The brewer with the most points in the First Round will be declared the winner. If a tie still exists,
f.The number of entries qualifying for the Final Round will be tallied for each tying brewer, and the brewer with the most entries placing in the First Round will be declared the winner. In case a tie still exists,
g.The total number of entries registered for the First Round of the competition will be tallied for each tying brewer, and the brewer with the fewest registered entries will be declared the winner. If a tie still exists,
h.The winner will be selected using a random selection method. A random method such as rock-paper-scissors, steel cage death match, or a coin flip will be applied at the discretion of the competition organizers to determine the winner.

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC
« on: February 04, 2014, 05:38:29 AM »
True. I'm no authority on the subject for certain. I was more less referring back to when there were repeat winners. I've heard Gordon say that he used to enter like 40+. I'm not questioning his ability at all. But to me it seems obvious that the less entries people can submit, the harder it will be to win Ninkasi

harder, sure.  but at what point will it have any meaning?  We had something like 8 people win two medals last year with a 15-entry limit.  Only 4 people had more than 6 points (the amount you get with one gold medal).
We could very easily have a 23-way tie between the beer gold medalists this year. 

we'll see...

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