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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Lottery
« on: November 21, 2013, 08:26:08 AM »
Tom, I have not judged second round, as I would want a better judge than me evaluating my second round beers.  :D

Have done first round. Will again if no conflicts.

FWIW, I got a damn good review/feedback from you from the Old Ale club-only comp from 2012...don't sell yourself too short.


General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Lottery
« on: November 20, 2013, 08:51:24 AM »
#4 is very likely to happen, the more volunteers the more entries we can judge, and that helps with a lot of these problems.

one more thing - will additional volunteerism mean additional entries?  Let's say I judged at two different regions last year, as well as the Finals.  Is that valued any higher than someone who just helped out at one region?

...tough call I'd not want to have to make.  Good luck.   ;D

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Lottery
« on: November 20, 2013, 08:45:24 AM »
Re: #3...
Since we know only members are getting in now, it would seem like tracking by AHA number wouldn't be that hard.  But assuredly there's difficulties I have no idea even exist, so OK...

I would submit that any winner of one of the 4 major individual awards should get some guaranteed entries, if they want them, for life.  I'd let you sort out how many.  Sort of a "Green Jacket." 

Adding giving single-year guarantees to the 84 medal winners doesn't seem altogether unfair - I think any medal winner deserves a chance to defend it if they want.


Events / Re: Which hotel to stay at in Grand Rapids
« on: November 18, 2013, 10:59:48 AM »
Don't forget Portland, Oregon.
Yes! Please come to Portland, that would be great!

Portland would be awesome. :)

*quick check of past conferences* ...not since 1998!  They're due!

I like this a lot.  I hope it happens!

Events / Re: Which hotel to stay at in Grand Rapids
« on: November 18, 2013, 07:01:24 AM »
The host city is kept quiet until all of the contracts are signed and it is a go. Once contracts are in hand, they can announce it. As the conference grows, it becomes a bigger financial positive for the host city, so there may be more competition from cities, convention centers, and hotels to have it. That may cause the people involved to be more tight lipped.

As far as the GR NHC, it was more of an announcement than a leak. Note that Austin is mentioned in the link, and they dropped out due to local liquor laws. As I have spent some time there, hope they have some new legislation that changes/changed those laws so that the NHC goes there some day.

Edit - note the mention of a 7 city rotation for the NHC. The size of the conference will limit it to big convention cities.

since we've got nothing else to do, shall we speculate that those 7 cities are?   :D
obvious one:  Denver
what else you guys got?

I'm coming into my 9th (and final) year on the GC. 

you're gonna run against next year though, right?
Boo term limits
Yay Denny.
"Three More Years!"

I appreciate your enthusiasm, but after 9 years, don't you think I deserve a year off?

you said "final" - which is why I asked if you were planning to run again.  You've done a great job and I hope you serve again.

...that's all I'm saying, and I bet the majority of the board agrees with me.


I'm coming into my 9th (and final) year on the GC. 

you're gonna run against next year though, right?
Boo term limits
Yay Denny.
"Three More Years!"

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Home beer and wine survey- results?
« on: November 12, 2013, 02:11:05 PM »
I wonder what % WERE highly affluent until getting hooked into homebrewing?   ;D

Zymurgy / Re: Cider yeast article - more info wanted
« on: November 11, 2013, 01:34:02 PM »
While I don't think the intent of the research or its funding is to produce peer-reviewed articles, I think the requested data should be shared as a condition of funding.

while the requested information would be handy, it seems to me like they met their statement of purpose.  And since this happened several months ago, I assume they've already been paid for the 35 gallons of Costco apple juice.

I make a ton of cider.  "How's it smell/taste?" - that's what I care about.  I had come to similar conclusions on my own, but I was happy to see the results and found the study useful.


The Pub / Re: Trick-or-treat
« on: November 01, 2013, 05:20:40 AM »
we don't get many kids - 18 this year, 15 last year - but for the third year in a row I noted that not one said thank you.

I think I'll just leave the lights off next year.

Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC Entry Limits for 2014
« on: October 29, 2013, 07:47:22 AM »

Last year the final round was judged in a single session, for beer anyway.  There is already room there so long as that many good judges keep attending the conference. 

If they go with a lottery system and I get shut out, this National judge will be staying home.  I likely won't volunteer my time to judge at a first round judging site either. Don't piss off your judges and volunteers by excluding them or the whole thing will collapse quickly.

There are hundreds of competitions around the country for people that "just want quality feedback".  NHC should not be one of those competitions because the demand to enter is to high.

I tend to agree with your bolded statement, though I'll still show up to NHC/Final Round judging if I'm not picked. Wait, unless threatening not to show up will get me on the list?  ;D

I think there are reasonably fair ways to give preferential treatment to winners/volunteers and give everyone else an equal chance.  Lots of them have been mentioned here, and I think all have some merit.

lottery of 100% of spots will lead to different uproar, not less uproar than last year, IMO.  Taking quality of the average competition beer into account I don't consider 100% lottery an improvement at all.


145 gallons of can't-remove-it-from-of-my-home creations this year.   ;)

turn the poll results 90 degrees counter-clockwise and it approximates my feelings towards the KS ABC.

Ask the Experts / Re: Ask the Experts: Gordon Strong
« on: October 23, 2013, 09:56:59 AM »
Gordon, how many judge experience points have ya got?

would "When 900 XP you have, look as good, you will not!" be a close approximation?   ;D

based on successes/attempts, for me it is Southern English Brown. 0/4.  Low OG, low alcohol, fairly high FG and sweetness?  Haven't come close without getting out of style size-wise. 
I suspect stabilizing and back-sweetening is the way to go.  No thanks; doesn't seem like my style anyway so no attempt #5.

otherwise, yeah, lagers.  Especially non-hop-forward ones.  I've fooled a few judges with a mediocre overhopped German Pils, but otherwise there's few places to hide.

Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC Entry Limits for 2014
« on: October 22, 2013, 09:51:17 AM »
Again, as long as the number of registrants is less than the number of entry slots this year, I see no reason to not give everyone a shot with the remaining spots by lottery.  But that's a short-term solution at best and maybe not even possible this year depending on interest level.  Really curious to see just how popular this hobby/contest is!

Amanda's statement on mediocre scores plus my own experience judging in NHC makes me wonder about equal access for everyone.  On one hand it is the most fair, but on the other hand I want the best competition with the highest level beers possible.  I know he's not competing, but imagine if Gordon Strong's name wasn't picked out of the proverbial hat - sorry, you don't get to enter.  The competition loses some luster without people like that IMO.

I would give an entry spot to everyone that volunteered in each region the previous year.  I'd give another one to each medal winner.  And I'd give another one to each of the major individual award winners.  So by helping in the finals, winning two medals, and Ninkasi, dbarber would get at least 4 entry spots held for him, more if he helped out on the first round anywhere.  Maybe it isn't "equal" but at least the spots would have been EARNED, volunteerism would have been encouraged, and there will still be leftover spots to give out by lottery.

just my two (more) cents.

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