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According to the FDA for milk the minimum temp is 145*F/63*c for 30 minutes and 155*/69* if sweeteners are added.  Not sure if the same holds true for beer.

This says 122-131 for beer No idea if it means anything though. This says 176-212 .

Otherwise, I can't find much and what I can find indicates it depends greatly on the strain of lacto.


Edit: RDWHAHB and good luck.

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: WB-06 finishing sour in wheat beers
« on: June 05, 2012, 12:47:03 AM »
Well, I was afraid of that.  I'll just have to wait to brew a weiss until I have my vacation time.


Yeast and Fermentation / WB-06 finishing sour in wheat beers
« on: June 02, 2012, 04:02:31 AM »
Hi all,

On my last 3 wheat beers I brewed with Safbrew WB-06 they all have finished really sour and stayed that way.  It's not an infected sour and the beers I brew alongside with us-05 all finish normally.  I have had to use kits recently because I have absolutely no time between work and work.  1 was a dunkelweizen from the beer nut in Salt Lake City, the other 2 were standard weiss kits from the same store.  I followed standard procedure, for a partial boil, cooled with a chiller and put them in a fridge with the temp controller set to 62.  I then kegged and all three were just sort of sour.  Almost tannin sour. As I said before, pale ales in the fridge right beside them fermented perfectly. 

Any ideas?

The Pub / Re: Just sayin
« on: June 02, 2012, 03:37:42 AM »
Based on Latin pronunciations, it makes more sense that Pliny would be pronounced plee knee rather than ply knee.

+1 Latin pronunciation (and Italian for that matter) does not have the "ih" vowel or the "ei" diphthong at all.  At least that is what my diction professors have all instructed.  It only has a pure "ee" sound for the i or an i modifying a consonant, such is the case with the proper pronunciation of the name Giovanni (hint not djeeovanni).  Consequently, the correct pronunciation would be Pleenee.

Edit:  ;D

This is like people who pronounce primer like primmer. And why I hate the English language.

-Sent from the future.

As for that example, it's a standard British colloquial pronunciation.  It is similar to the spelling differences from "gray" to "grey"...both correct.  We in America have terrible pronunciation for several words including aluminum and jaguar.

Beer Travel / St. Louis
« on: March 25, 2012, 10:40:33 PM »
Hi all,

I'll be in St. Louis for a conference this week and was wondering what good restaurants, tap houses, or breweries/taprooms I should try.  I will be relying mostly on public transit so that might be a factor. I did find that Schlafly is there and will absolutely be going, otherwise I am completely ignorant about what to do wise.

Oh yeah, I love good BBQ and the less commercial/more authentic the better.


The Pub / Re: AHA joke thread
« on: March 12, 2012, 11:48:32 PM »
Did you hear about the dehydrated Frenchman Pierre?

The Pub / Re: AHA joke thread
« on: March 12, 2012, 11:46:56 PM »
Doctor Bob had sex with one of his patients and felt guilty all day long. No matter how much he tried to forget about it, he couldn't. The guilt and sense of betrayal was overwhelming.

But every once in a while he'd hear an internal, reassuring voice that said: "Bob, don't worry about it. You aren't the first doctor to sleep with one of their patients and you won't be the last. And you're single. Just let it go...".

But invariably the other voice would bring him back to reality, whispering... "Bob, you're a vet..."

The Pub / Re: AHA joke thread
« on: March 12, 2012, 11:45:47 PM »
Soon after our last child left home for college, my wife was resting next
to me on the couch with her head in my lap.

I carefully removed her glasses. "You know, honey," I said sweetly, "Without
your glasses you look like the same young woman I married."

"Honey," she replied, "Without my glasses, you look pretty good,

The Pub / Re: AHA joke thread
« on: March 12, 2012, 11:43:26 PM »
Two crews, one from Wyoming and one from Nebraska, were hired to replace telephone poles along the border.  The crews were given their orders and went to work digging the holes and putting up the poles. 

After a long day the foreman asked the Wyoming crew how many poles they had put in the ground.

"Fifteen" was the answer.

"Not bad, not bad at all," the foreman said.

Turning to the Nebraska crew he asked how many they had put in. "Four" was
the answer.

"Four?" the foreman yelled. "The others did fifteen, and you only did four?"

"Yes," replied the leader of the Nebraska group, "But go look at how much they
left sticking out of the ground."

The Pub / What beer opened your eyes?
« on: December 03, 2011, 11:52:50 PM »
The first beer that let me know there was more to the world that the standard lagers and a few stouts was Edelweiss wheat beer from Austria.  It had a banana flavor that just intrigued me.  (It also made me feel really tipsy after 2 bottles but I found out later that some wheat beers do that to me.)  After that I started looking for that taste again and in the process found a world of different flavors.

What beer did that to you?


Beer Travel / Brewery/food reviews Vienna Nov 19-25 2011
« on: December 03, 2011, 11:48:23 PM »
I will try to give reviews of everything I had both food and beer related.  For a guideline I used the review at  The coolest thing was going during Christmas bock season.  Keep in mind though, that Austria is not for the picky eater. 

The first brewpub I went to was 1516 brewing.  The Weiss was a very good example of the style with a subtle fruity/phenolic/ester-y flavor.  The Oatmeal stout was thin with no stout flavor (I would think too little/no roasted barley) and lots of hop bitterness.  Too much for that beer I thought. The food was pretty bland and lacking for the most part with the exception of a nockerl dish my wife ordered.

Next was Salm Bräu.  The food was genuinely good with hearty, even by American standards, portions.  We both had the Kloster-Pfandel and it was impressive.  The deserts were good as well.  The Pils was great.  It was grainy, hoppy and clean even though it tasted a little too young and the märzen was fantastic.  They also make a single malt whiskey which was very good.  Sort of like a good Irish whiskey.

7*Stern/Siebenstern was one of my personal favorites, and not just because they serve wild boar.  I started with a rauchbier that was very tasty. Then I tried samples of the chili beer (way too hot) and the hemp beer which was not bad but really strange.  Next day I went back and had the Helles (good if a little too many esters), the Dunkel (solid example of a dunkel), and the Märzen (another good example) and my wife had the WeinachtsBock (Christmas Bock) which was probably the best beer they brew.  They also had a house beer-schnaps that tasted like a subtly flavored corn whiskey to me.

Next was Stadtbrauerei Schwarzenberg.  Yes, it was touristy but the lunch menu was good and inexpensive.  The beer was pretty meh.  Not bad but a little too sweet.

Wieden Bräu Was one of my favorites for beer.  Everything was perfect from the Helles to the Märzen to the nice and hoppy WeinachtsBock.  The food was good and well priced.

Schwarz Raben was an out-of-the-way place with a nasty house beer but a lot of good stuff in the fermenters.  The real highlight of this place was the selection of scotch and American whiskeys.  All of them went for around €4-5 even though I have seen some of them in the states for $12+.  There was also a very friendly dog that made sure you felt welcome.

The last 2 breweries were the Stiegel Alt Ambulanz, which I missed but is still going, and the University Bräuhaus, which I read later is not a real brewery but more of a Stiegel tap house. It was crowded and expensive but had good food and a great alt.

I tried for Eipeltauer Privatbrauerei but they were gone.

My wife I also tried several meads which were more in the Polish sweet mead vein.  They were all from private apiaries and were sold at the Christmas markets.  Most were pretty tasty but all were very sweet.  The Rose Liqueur from one of the stands was interesting.  Homemade schnaps and brandies were everywhere and cheap.  Also, if you've never tried Glühwein or a good rum punch while walking around on a cold day, you're missing out.

I'll look at my notes and try to post more information about other commercial Austrian beers I tried.


Beer Travel / Re: Vienna, Austria late Nov. 2011
« on: November 17, 2011, 11:31:06 PM »
I went to this place in July.

Any good? Their thanksgiving day special sounds sort of interesting.

Beer Travel / Re: Vienna, Austria late Nov. 2011
« on: November 17, 2011, 11:29:16 PM »
Oh! and then run down to Slovenia and figure out this one for me -

Darn, now I wanna go there too.

Equipment and Software / Re: Fridge breaking/broken
« on: November 03, 2011, 11:51:11 PM »
Thanks for the heads up alha.  I'll check into it right away.  As for the model # I found the 106. in smaller print after you pointed that out.

Thanks again,

The Pub / Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
« on: November 03, 2011, 11:42:58 PM »
The reason I always use an alias on the 'net is because my workplace has an incredibly draconian internet representation/usage policy.  If I am posting under my name and a student/parent finds me posting on a beer forum, I could be dismissed for it.  It could be viewed as promoting alcohol use and when you work with in schools that is generally frowned upon in my neck of the woods.  Crappy reason but one I have to live with if I want to keep working here. 

That said, I try not to be a jerk and like to think I would say what is said here to a person, not just a text box. 

If you're ever in the area of milepost 104 on I80 in Wyoming, feel free to drop me a line and I'd love to meet any of you.


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