Here we go again.
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If they are noble, the beta will take over. Its creates a slightly harsher bitterness, but you can use them the same will little to no alpha adjustments.
Care to explain your brew process? Very curious, and I like details.. prefermentation mostly.
Dorst Hornbush says Helles MUST HAVE the protein rest for 30 minutes at 122F or 50C. If you choose to skip this rest, he says it is not a true helles. I'm not so sure about that, but whatevs... I plan to include it in my next helles just because. I usually do a Hochkurz step infusion mash, it's easy enough. I've actually been conditioning my grain lately before mashing in as well. I really like what that's doing for the crush and the run off of the mash.
No offense to Horst... Actually I don't really care. You do rests based on malt, not based on style. unless you are getting very green malt, which you are not because it has a shelf life of like days...Overworking the malt will hurt you. Rests and temps are ALWAYS based on this. Infusion/step and decoction will change those times as well.
Do an ice bath and a boil test. If your ice bath is accurate, it's probably fine. Boil test should read ~211, despite what people say, I've NEVER seen water boil at 212 except in my chemistry and physics labs where we were using distilled water.
In the mean time, I'm brewing some smaller batches till I can get this sh*t figured out.
I've been brewing small batches for the last 4 months. Big fan. Lots of diversity in my pipeline. So many beers to choose from
How about grain bed temperature differences? What if it's 150F in one spot and 147F at the other end of the cooler? I've seemed to notice something like this in my cooler. I try to stir for several minutes after mashing in. Spit balling here; doubt that's the case.
I'll back you up and say no way your thermopen is off.
At what temp do you consider it a "protein rest"?
I have not been doing a protein rest, Dave. Sorry I missed that.
I typically mash around 150F for 75 minutes, but have done some Hochkurz step infusion mashes as well with the same results.