« on: September 25, 2015, 01:33:17 PM »
no side by side-just same recipe with starter, same recipe without with pure pitch. i can say for certain having both beers available for tasting and comparison, there was nothing at all that indicated any ill effects in the pure pitch non starter. i'm not trying to convince anyone, just saying IME there is another path to great beer for me-and i have that proved out for myself after 2 different yeast strains and 4 batches with no starter pure pitch.
Great. Now try no starter with a 6-month old pack in 5.5 gallons of 1.080 doppelbock.
I'm not trying to be an ass. I'm just making a point that there are exceptions to every rule of thumb. If you've got reasonably fresh yeast and a gravity <1.060, then I'd say you're probably doing okay. Just.... don't be surprised when a variable is off and you end up with 5 gallons of something you didn't really intend.
And then of course, if you're making a hefeweizen, then you really don't ever need a starter if the yeast is less than 6 months old. It loves to be stressed out. Exceptions to every rule.