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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: It begins...
« on: March 22, 2017, 04:11:08 PM »
And you're assuming one that buys a kit like this wants to learn about it beyond the process. You don't think some see box mix convenience in a kit like this? Betty's brownies and my scratch brownies are different, yet they are both still brownies and I learned to bake.

Beat me to it.  I know plenty of brewers (and there's probably alot more them than "us") that care less about the kit ingredients and just want to make good beer/brownies quickly and effectively with a minimum of fuss.

Well, that makes absolutely no sense to me. Why not just go buy the commercial beer? If you are that careless as a homebrewer the actual beer is most likely gonna taste better than your half ass homebrew anyway.  ;) Perhaps I'm an over-achiever.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: It begins...
« on: March 22, 2017, 05:11:27 AM »
I'm not buying Betty Crocker brownie mix anymore. She doesn't share her recipes. What a b****.

If you don't see the difference between a convenience factor of making kit brownies instead of learning how to make brownies from scratch as opposed to trying to clone a favorite beer recipe, then you won't ever get it. And, as I mentioned before, the REAL problem I have with Williams and the GI secrecy is that it doesn't provide the home brewer the educational tools to make him or her a better brewer. I don't expect breweries to share their recipes unless they are selling kits to homebrewers. Then it is a different story.

Also, like I said, I';m not going to cut my nose to spite my face. If I really need something from NB I am going to buy it. Thankfully for me I have a pretty well stocked homebrew store within walking distance from the brewery.

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Going Pro / Re: Going pro and converting dairy equipment
« on: March 21, 2017, 12:37:26 PM »
I started with dairy equipment. We had everything welded in for us. Not sure how much help I can give you but I've definitely been there. The used dairy tank we had for a MT had a paddle installed when we got it and just had 2 screens designed for the false bottom.

The BK we used a burner attached through the side and had an an element that ran across the bottom 1/3 of the tank.

We did not used dairy equipment for fermentors, we used plastic conicals heat wrapped in a cold room to control fermentation temps.

I can honestly say that dairy tanks are a good way to get started when you are on a budget but no doubt it is a short term solution. Once you move onto professional equipment your life will be much, much better. and so will your product.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Temperature considerations for storing grain?
« on: March 20, 2017, 01:49:34 PM »
I have stored grain in hot warhouse conditions for months, sealed, with no problems with friability of flavor. Some malts stored sealed through 2 Alabama summers and still in great condition.

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Ingredients / Re: Belgian Candy Sugar - Adding Late to The Boil?
« on: March 20, 2017, 05:05:24 AM »
The only issue is it will affect your alpha acid utilization.

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Ingredients / Re: Habanero question
« on: March 19, 2017, 10:28:25 AM »
I think 5-10 deseeded and deveined habanero peppers will be plenty of heat. The habanero itself has great flavor I do not like the flavor of the seeds or veins. But, again, it's personal preference. I prefer the pepper flavor over the heat. But if you want heat I'd ssay add more de-veined/de-seeded peppers, don't add the seeds. That way you will get more of the fruity character from the pepper not just be heat centered beer.

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The Pub / Re: Brewers Association Top 50 Breweries 2016
« on: March 19, 2017, 10:01:29 AM »
Just to be clear I lived in PA till '93. I remember drinking the Lord Chesterfield but don't remember at all if I enjoyed it. I saw the porter on the shelves here in the South East once a few years back but haven't in some time.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: It begins...
« on: March 19, 2017, 08:11:21 AM »
Hard to argue with that but the educated consumer has the right to chose.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: It begins...
« on: March 19, 2017, 08:04:06 AM »
I think what everyone is failing to see is that is a business strategy, trying to ensure return business. IF you buy a kit at retail price that they are paying commercial prices for they get a profit. If they don't share the recipe then you can't go buy all the ingredients in bulk and undercut them, you will return to buy the kit and they make more money. It's business 101.

There is truth to this and it's good business practices for beginner brewers but it turns off advanced brewers in the long run.

Right, but advanced brewers aren't buying kits!  Its all about knowing your audience, maybe if they lose the business from 10 advanced brewers buying bulk goods, they still turn a profit because of kits.  ;)

Truth but when it turns off the people who are coming back to your store over and over again rather than buying one kit one time then you start to have loyalty issues. I buy a lot of small ingredients and have used NB a lot regardless of the AB buy out. And I won't cut my nose to spite my face if I really need something but  business practices like that chaff my ass and I will do my best not to go through them from now on.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: It begins...
« on: March 19, 2017, 07:52:24 AM »
I think what everyone is failing to see is that is a business strategy, trying to ensure return business. IF you buy a kit at retail price that they are paying commercial prices for they get a profit. If they don't share the recipe then you can't go buy all the ingredients in bulk and undercut them, you will return to buy the kit and they make more money. It's business 101.

There is truth to this and it may be a  good business practices for selling to beginner brewers who don't know any better but it turns off advanced brewers in the long run. Honestly, it would be a hell of a lot easier and cheaper to just go buy Goose island IPA rather than brew the kit.


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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: It begins...
« on: March 19, 2017, 07:49:25 AM »
I am not sure why you are upset. I wanted your insight, coming from a person who's livelihood comes from making specific recipes.. I didn't agree or disagree, purely curiosity.   ???

sorry didn't mean to come across as upset. Its the 4 shots of espresso coming through. A ;) would have conveyed that I'm not upset. ;)

But like I said "I'm not in the business of selling kits to homebrewers" in case I didn't make that clear.

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Ingredients / Re: Habanero question
« on: March 19, 2017, 07:45:00 AM »
Amounts are going to depend on your tolerance to the heat. When I have used them I have de-seeded and de-veined them and roasted them then added to secondary. I think maybe the last time I used them I only used about 3-4 but I blended other peppers in there too.

Man, it is amazing how much available sugar is in a handfull of peppers. I have blown a couple of firkins before I realized you can't just add peppers to firkins!

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: It begins...
« on: March 19, 2017, 07:30:27 AM »
Paranoia
The Destroyer

....if you are buying pre-made kits to clone a beer you like, do you really care what the grain bill is?

Good point

I absolutely would! If you find a beer you like, and you want to uderstand what the ingredients are to make your beer taste like that, you need to understand the ingredients.

I'll be honest, never cared about the AB buying NB thing until now. I stopped buying from Williams Brewing because they wouldn't share the ingredients to their recipes years ago. It's the principle of the thing.

I don't know the answer to this, but do you share your recipes for yellowhammer to the public? I know I have recipes that I refuse to share, so I guess it doesn't bother me.

Look in the back of Denny's book "Experimental Homebrewing" for your answer.... but, I'm also not in the business of selling kits to homebrewers. If you personally asked me for a recipe I would give you the recipe. Not every single detail, mind you. But certainly the grain bill.

Yea, lets just say I won't be doing that, but.. Cool.

Why does this not surprise me coming from you? lol

Like I said, I'm not in the business of selling kits to homebrewers. There's your difference. I'm not afraid of sharing my beer recipes because I have all the confidence in the world in my ability as a brewer. I also said I wouldn't share every single detail. The difference is always in the details. You should know this.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Celleraring vs storage
« on: March 19, 2017, 07:26:28 AM »
Absolutely agree with the above: Colder is better. A lot of the hype we see over DO here on the forum is simply overblown. If you can keep your beer cold you will extend the shelf life drastically and the colder the better up until the freezing point.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: It begins...
« on: March 19, 2017, 07:15:25 AM »
Paranoia
The Destroyer

....if you are buying pre-made kits to clone a beer you like, do you really care what the grain bill is?

Good point

I absolutely would! If you find a beer you like, and you want to uderstand what the ingredients are to make your beer taste like that, you need to understand the ingredients.

I'll be honest, never cared about the AB buying NB thing until now. I stopped buying from Williams Brewing because they wouldn't share the ingredients to their recipes years ago. It's the principle of the thing.

I don't know the answer to this, but do you share your recipes for yellowhammer to the public? I know I have recipes that I refuse to share, so I guess it doesn't bother me.

Look in the back of Denny's book "Experimental Homebrewing" for your answer.... but, I'm also not in the business of selling kits to homebrewers. If you personally asked me for a recipe I would give you the recipe. Not every single detail, mind you. But certainly the grain bill.

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