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General Homebrew Discussion / Soapy off flavor
« on: January 11, 2013, 09:46:20 AM »
Yeah, autolysis usually tastes "meaty" to me, but supposedly the fatty acids that the yeast spill out into the beer resembles the molecular structure of soap .... or some BS like that. ;)

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The Pub / Why does Budweiser just not get it?
« on: January 11, 2013, 09:28:18 AM »
Reading about this "Bud Black Crown" that they are releasing - http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-01-10/with-black-crown-budweiser-aims-to-refresh-the-brand and I'm thinking "wow, they are really going to launch a flavorful lager type beer".

Then I am reading the most recent issue of "Beer Advocate" and see that the beer they are going to release as "Black Crown" is the beer that scored worse out of the "Project 12" pack (Batch No. 91406) It got a 69 and comments like "near cloying sweetness" and "misplaced carmel note".

I honestly haven't had the beer yet but I'm not expecting much with that score.

We all always say that we don't like Bud products but we respect the prowess of their brewing skills - so why can they not seem to make a truly great beer? I know most of it is marketing but I wonder how much of it is also just lack of understanding on how the beer scene is changing? Newspapers are failing (or have failed) across the country for the same types of reasons.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Soapy off flavor
« on: January 11, 2013, 08:05:34 AM »
George Gix attributed soapy esters to lipids in the beer.  I have noticed soapy aromas especially when using EKG and Challenger hops.  Both were high in beta acids, and I have wondered if the oxidation of betas produced the soapy aroma. 

Also, I keep cognizant that sometimes we associate a flowery aroma with soap because soaps all use flowery fragrances and additives.  It may just be a normal hop aroma or flavor that over time we have come to associate with soap. 

Do you have a reference for autolysis producing soapy off-flavors?

The yeast break open and release their fatty acids into the wort. I believe it is in How to Brew, don't have a copy in front of me.

Tried an unscientific taste test last night and I swear, just the edge of a knife with a bit of gypsum mixed into the beer fixed 80% of the problem. Going to try a blind taste test tomorrow.

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The Pub / The OFFICIAL AHA 4M's NFL BULL SH$%^&TER'S THREAD!
« on: January 10, 2013, 07:42:02 PM »
Hey, a SEC team is National Champ.  Life is good.
Just having a laugh at Shep's joke.  Never heard that one before.

You are a GD yankee.  Damn yankees come to visit and go home.
GD yankees come to visit and stay.   ;D

right. my bad. ;)

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The Pub / The OFFICIAL AHA 4M's NFL BULL SH$%^&TER'S THREAD!
« on: January 10, 2013, 12:40:58 PM »
See, the whole "dis-Alabama" thing doesn't work on me since I am a damn yankee. ;) My wife, OTOH, is an alumnus and, trust me, you don't want to piss her off.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Soapy off flavor
« on: January 10, 2013, 12:38:18 PM »
I may try filling a corny nd letting it dissolve. I was thinking the gypsum would dissolve better in beer than water due to the lower pH.

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The Pub / The OFFICIAL AHA 4M's NFL BULL SH$%^&TER'S THREAD!
« on: January 10, 2013, 11:22:06 AM »
I was in a pool once.  In Hawaii.

Yeah, you seem like the kinda guy who would be in the pool rather than at the beach.
Like you never experimented with pools when you were younger.

Gene pools?

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General Homebrew Discussion / Soapy off flavor
« on: January 10, 2013, 11:16:23 AM »
Noonan stated that higher sulfate levels balance hop soapy flavors.

"Hoppy beers sometimes have an unpleasant soapy flavor. Calcium sulfate eliminates soapy flavors and accentuates a clean, piquant hop bitterness."

http://www.byo.com/stories/article/indices/56-water/313-brewing-water-tips-from-the-pros

I'm betting you hit the nail. I have not had my water tested in a long, long time and the local water is sourced differently.

You could add some gypsum to water to dissolve well, then do a little experiment adding sulfated water to a pint.

I was wondering if I could just add the gypsum directly to the pint, but I'll try the dissolving idea. Thanks!

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General Homebrew Discussion / Soapy off flavor
« on: January 10, 2013, 11:02:25 AM »
Noonan stated that higher sulfate levels balance hop soapy flavors.

"Hoppy beers sometimes have an unpleasant soapy flavor. Calcium sulfate eliminates soapy flavors and accentuates a clean, piquant hop bitterness."

http://www.byo.com/stories/article/indices/56-water/313-brewing-water-tips-from-the-pros

I'm betting you hit the nail. I have not had my water tested in a long, long time and the local water is sourced differently.

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The Pub / The OFFICIAL AHA 4M's NFL BULL SH$%^&TER'S THREAD!
« on: January 10, 2013, 10:56:09 AM »
I was in a pool once.  In Hawaii.

Yeah, you seem like the kinda guy who would be in the pool rather than at the beach.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Soapy off flavor
« on: January 10, 2013, 08:22:17 AM »
They were from two different pitches - in fact, I switched yeast strains on the last one. Definitely not a contamination flavor I am picking up.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Soapy off flavor
« on: January 10, 2013, 08:08:59 AM »
My last 2 IPAs have both had a soapy off flavor. I realize that this can be caused by autolysis but I don't think this is the case. The only thing different I did in these last 2 recipes was swap our cascades for centennial since I was out. The cascades weren't super fresh but they smelled fine.

Anyone have any ideas?

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The Pub / The OFFICIAL AHA 4M's NFL BULL SH$%^&TER'S THREAD!
« on: January 10, 2013, 07:11:14 AM »
So, I am in a pool where you have to pick one team each week to win but can't pick the same team twice. Thinking about taking San Fran this weekend. What do you guys think?

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The Pub / The OFFICIAL AHA 4M's NFL BULL SH$%^&TER'S THREAD!
« on: January 10, 2013, 07:09:43 AM »
I have not had much to bullsh!t about this year. Except we did manage to beat the Steelers. But that was a long time ago. I was at the beach, IIRC.

Hell, it's January 9th and I went surfing today.  No big ting bruddah (sept da waves,  BIG!)

I'm going to start deleting every post you make about Hawaii. :P

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The Pub / BCS Championship
« on: January 10, 2013, 07:08:20 AM »
I really didn't think it was that bad and would have thought almost nothing of it if the media hadn't made such a big deal out of it. She is extremely attractive. What did he say, really?

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