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Beer Recipes / Re: Düsseldorf Alt Recipe Check
« on: November 09, 2011, 06:39:00 AM »
If you are using WY1007 then 56-58 is your best target temp., in fact you can even go a degree or two colder. I've been brewing one solidly for a year now and anything warmer than 60 you start to pick up some yeast characteristics I don't care for with this strain. In fact, I recommend to anyone who can't ferment in the mid 50's to go with the WLP001/WY1056 for any Alt or mock lager. It's much cleaner at warmer temps.

Also, I prefer to use a blend of Vienna and Munich as the majority of the grist with only a small amount of pilsner to lighten the body and provide enzymes. Depends what you are going for. If you do this and you want a light copper color you may not need the carafa.

Also, make sure you have enough hop aroma. I use a substantial about of Spalter at 20 min and at 5 minutes.

Going Pro / Re: Steam vs Electric vs Gas?
« on: November 09, 2011, 06:31:15 AM »
I used to use PBW but now i just use a green scrubby pad and "floss" then clean. As long as you clean them after every brew it takes no more than 10 minutes for 2 elements.

Going Pro / Re: Steam vs Electric vs Gas?
« on: November 09, 2011, 05:43:58 AM »
I am currently running a frankenbrewed 3bbl electric brewery. I have no real problems with it except having to clean the elements. If one of the elements crusts up it can burn and ruin a batch so the cleaning regimen is essential. there are reports out there that say that electric elements can give an odd "grassy" like flavor to bittering hops so some people bag them, but I have never had this issue and I use pellets directly in the boil. Electric is also quiet, which is really nice.

Anything larger that a 7 bbl system and you pretty much need to go with direct fire or steam.

We are in the process of building a 10 bbl brewhouse and we looked at going with steam jacket. Steam gives a more even heat and doesn't scorch as much on the bottom of the kettle making clean up easy. Steam is also quiet since you will have the boiler located in a separate sealed off room.

The problem is the boiler, you are going to spend at least $30K to have a boiler installed and they have to be maintained constantly. You have to have an RO system to feed the water into the boiler to keep the coils from calcifying. You have to have it state inspected. We just weren't ready for all of that and the additional 30K was going to put us over our budget so we went with direct fire. I also bet your "turn key" system doesn't include a boiler.

On our next system we will go with steam, but direct fire is easier to install and mostly maintenance free except for cleaning. It also ended up being cheaper to just run larger ID gas piping over to brewhouse than to run more electric, and we will need the electricity we currently have near brew house for keg cleaner and pump, and small electric pilot system.

So, I would say if you are going 3 bbl go with electric. 7 bbl it is a toss up between electric and gas, depends on your building requirements. If you can afford steam and are ready for a bit of a learning curve it is probably the best option as far as efficiency goes.

The Pub / Re: The McRib is back!!!
« on: November 08, 2011, 05:32:58 PM »
As I now am able to post I will add my two cents.....I love the the McRib almost as much as I lovve bacon. Now what's that tell ya?

I think it tells us not to trust you when it comes to telling us if your beer is any good. ;)

That, and your a hick. But we already knew that.

The Pub / Re: help!i
« on: November 08, 2011, 05:31:19 PM »
Weaz = new BFI?

Now tthat was funny! and I could not possibly be the new BFI, as I did not begin the post by spouting off about something meaningless. 
  And FWIW, I did nothing, and for some odd reason, I goto logged ni tonight. Go figure.

Usually when I don't understand an acronym I google it but I'm not finding BFI.  What's BFI?  Bacon Friendly Individual?

"Bacon Friendly Individual" ... it is the new BFI! Too damn funny! :D

« on: November 08, 2011, 03:19:09 PM »
If the Eagles weren't done before they are are officially well done now.

There's always hope for next year. The story of a Philly fan's life.  :(

"Dream Team" *snicker*. You guys would have been better off keeping McNab!  ;)

« on: November 08, 2011, 03:03:43 PM »
I remember the first time I saw a game at the stadium,
and was shocked that I could watch the routes developing down field.

The ONLY reason I became a Titans fan is because I could go to see the games in person. This will probably be the first year I miss seeing a game since they came to Nashville.

Totally agree though, you see so much more from the stadium than you do on TV. I love going to games.

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: brewing with Brettanomyces
« on: November 08, 2011, 02:37:09 PM »
These guys really know their stuff:

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: brewing with Brettanomyces
« on: November 08, 2011, 01:49:52 PM »
I don't think it will hurt to disturb the pellicle. The only possible harm I can think of would be that you would open a small surface of teh beer up to potential o2, but that's not really a huge problem at this point.

I'd suggest a 4-6 month wait before tasting. You may then decide to go another 4 - 6 months before trying again.

The Pub / Re: help!i
« on: November 08, 2011, 10:17:56 AM »
As a person who has been forced to use both through out my adult life I can tolerate windows but I enjoy working on a Mac.

And as a person who has frequently used both, I reached the opposite conclusion. 

Which always has surprised me seeing as you are in a creative field - Mac was designed specifically to make using a computer not only more user friendly but also a more artistic experience.

Regardless, I'm just trying have a little fun. Use whatever you like. But I've had significantly fewer problems on my Mac than I have ever had on any Window's based machines. I've never had problems accessing any website on a Mac.

Now the kicker is going to be when Wease comes up and says he's using a Mac. That would be rich!  ;)

The Pub / Re: help!i
« on: November 08, 2011, 09:59:28 AM »

When you turn off a MAC don't you depress the same button that you use to turn it on? I believe that you use the same key to turn a Mercedes on or off. What's your point? ;)

Uhhhm ... no. You choose "Shut Down" Obviously you've never used a Mac. that's my point.

The Pub / Re: help!i
« on: November 08, 2011, 06:59:26 AM »
That's why I say its obvious you've never owned one. It's the little things on a Mercedes like the way the doors shut, the low road noise, the dashboard display lights - things like these that let you know you are on a quality machine. ya know, intuitive stufff. Not like in Windows where you go to "START" when you want to shut down. As a person who has been forced to use both through out my adult life I can tolerate windows but I enjoy working on a Mac.

The Pub / Re: help!i
« on: November 08, 2011, 06:49:14 AM »

True, I've never owned one just like I never owned a Yugo MERCEDES. Some times the reasons are just blatantly obvious. :D

The Pub / Re: help!i
« on: November 08, 2011, 06:47:56 AM »
It has nothing to do with Mac/PC/Ubuntu, FWIW - If you're trying to access via IE that's probably the problem; try in Firefox or Chrome  SAFARI and let us know if you have the same problem.

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