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Other Fermentables / Pickles and Crispness
« on: August 05, 2012, 09:04:55 AM »
The calcium chloride really did the trick. My pickles still have a few days to go because they are not sour enough but these are the most firm and crisp pickles I have ever had.

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Equipment and Software / Re: Reversed Immersion Chiller
« on: August 05, 2012, 08:09:38 AM »
Yes. That's what I did, anyway, until my IC got damaged. I actually use a chillzilla CFC now because I have one, but I do recirc that the 20 min of boil with pump ala the JZ way. Works just the same, except I always PBW the CFC after every brew session. Rarely did anything with IC except hose it off, though I did do an acid soak a few times to remove patina from copper.

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Commercial Beer Reviews / Saison Dupont
« on: August 05, 2012, 07:13:12 AM »
It has been a long, long time since I have a a Saison de Pont, but I do recall getting a few old or light struck bottles on occasion. For some reason I can not enjoy the Foret. Just do not enjoy that beer's character much.

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Ingredients / MFB pilsner malts and DMS creation?
« on: August 05, 2012, 07:07:49 AM »
may be dumb question but do you boil with the lid on or off? I can't see why you would pick up DMS otherwise according to your protocal.

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The Pub / Re: How to introduce a girl to brewing...
« on: August 04, 2012, 08:24:27 PM »
 ;D I agree whole heartedly!!

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The Pub / Re: How to introduce a girl to brewing...
« on: August 04, 2012, 03:29:20 PM »
I guess if you are going to introduce a girl to brewing this is a good time to examine whether to or not to wear pants. Sorry. I don't have an answer. It's a conundrum wrapped in an enigma.

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Equipment and Software / Re: Reversed Immersion Chiller
« on: August 04, 2012, 02:49:50 PM »
BTW: I drop mine in the last 20 minutes to sanitize. Some how I missed typing that above.

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General Homebrew Discussion / What makes it "Belgian"?
« on: August 04, 2012, 12:29:01 PM »
BTW: According to your argument Jackson Pollock did you create because he used paint and andy Warhol was not an artist because he used silk screen. It's not the canvas, it's what you do with it.

Keith, you're completely missing my point, so I'll give you some examples. I think you're taking exception with my use of "derivative," so I'll replace it with "innovative" as in, creative vs. innovative.
Creative vs. innovative:
Newcomen's steam engine vs. Watt's steam engine
Xerox's GUI vs. Apple's GUI
Pale lager vs. every beer made to compete with pale lager

First Cave Painting vs Van Gogh
Vivaldi vs Beethoven
Model T Ford vs Ferrari
Scrabled Eggs vs Omelet

None of those things were original either, I guess. Like I said, Good artist innovate, great artist steal. Your case made point by Xerox vs Apple above. Xerox came up with an idea, Apple made it work creatively.

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General Homebrew Discussion / What makes it "Belgian"?
« on: August 04, 2012, 10:56:40 AM »
Nate: No, I get your point. I just think your definition of "creative" is wrong. But that's cool. You being wrong, I mean. :P

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: What makes it "Belgian"?
« on: August 04, 2012, 06:07:07 AM »
BTW: According to your argument Jackson Pollock did you create because he used paint and andy Warhol was not an artist because he used silk screen. It's not the canvas, it's what you do with it.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: What makes it "Belgian"?
« on: August 04, 2012, 05:59:21 AM »
Nate - you are talking to an art major here, and a professional graphic designer and artist who has made his living at it for over 20 years. And I can assure you there is nothing new under the sun. Just because you are not the "first" to do something, doesn't mean you are not creative. The fact that one borrows an idea to build something is still an act of "creation". The saying amongst artist and designers is "Good artists innovate, great artists steal". The fact that the belgians created the Tripel to compete with the invading pilsner (using the local ingredients available to them at the time, including the yeast) is in itself an act of creation and is, by itself, extremely creative. A 9% abv ale to compete with a 5% golden lager? Come on! That is extremely creative!

The argument can be made that all beer styles were developed because of the needs and demands of the environment and the ingredients and attitudes that prevailed - that doesn't mean that the people who came up with that beer style did not create, even if they borrowed heavily from something or somewhere else.

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Equipment and Software / Reversed Immersion Chiller
« on: August 04, 2012, 05:18:36 AM »
That's funny, when I started brewing going on 17 years now I misunderstood and did the exact same thing. I think you will find the regular Immersion Chiller set up to be just as efficient and way more easy to use. To sanitize an IC you just hose it off and dump it in the boil during the last minute and whirl pool with a spoon or pump while chilling. I have a counter flow chiller as well and both work great but I always preferred the convenience of the IC, personally.

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General Homebrew Discussion / What makes it "Belgian"?
« on: August 04, 2012, 05:13:59 AM »


For me if a beer is from Belgium it should be classified as so. Made elsewhere with the yeast it should be termed "Belgian-style" or inspired if you want as the aforementioned Belgo indicates. This will at least alert the consumer if strong yeast byproducts are apparent in the flavor and construed as intentional.

For you and the TTB/state ABC as well. You can't label a commercial beer :"Belgian". Has to be labeled "Belgian-style". One of the few regulations that make sense.

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General Homebrew Discussion / What makes it "Belgian"?
« on: August 04, 2012, 05:11:16 AM »
I love that strange beer they make, but it's not creative.

Thought I'd chime in on this. How is it "not creative"? Just because they used ingredients that were available to them? Using spices and candi sugar is not creative? Making a 9% golden beer to compete with pilsner is not creative? We are talking about the nation that invented the smurfs. ;) . Belgian beer is certainly creative. I don't see where you are coming from.

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General Homebrew Discussion / What makes it "Belgian"?
« on: August 03, 2012, 05:22:43 PM »
What makes it Belgian?  Um....if it's made in Belgium.

I have been told that "Stella Artois is the best beer in the world .... and it's Belgian" (or they may have said "it's Belgium", actually). ;)

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