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Beer Recipes / Re: Oatmeal Porter-Critique Please
« on: September 21, 2011, 12:35:34 PM »
Just to clarify, this is a 2.5 gallon batch. Sorry if it looked weird.

Regardless, I am loving the opinions here. The reason I was thinking some D-180 or D-90 would be good is because I was thinking the dark fruits, baker's chocolate, light coffee notes would go well in a porter. However, I was a little worried that it might dry out a beer like this where I was thinking of adding oats, or that it just sounded out of place in a porter.

The thing to take away from this thread is there are no hard and fast rules. IME dark candi syrup always reminds me of the raisin like character you get in Dubbels. Same with special B. Using it doesn't make it wrong, and if you sub it out for malt it will ferment drier - and the roast character of a porter may actually mask that character somewhat so I may be completely wrong (but not ridiculous  ;) ). My personal preference for a Porter is stated above, all malt. Doesn't mean it can't be brewed another way but if my opinion is asked on a public forum I can only give it, not someone else's.

Beer Recipes / Re: Oatmeal Porter-Critique Please
« on: September 21, 2011, 09:09:38 AM »
^^^ That's where you should come in with your experiences. The thing that stuck in my craw was "ridiculous". I can totally see your point of view, I just don't agree that my opinion is "ridiculous".  ;)

Now, Special B in a porter ....  :P

« on: September 21, 2011, 08:43:47 AM »
as a Giants fan...I ask myself every week I watch them, was the Superbowl worth basically signing up for 5 more years of Coughlin and used to be a quick yes...these days...I just don't know. It's pretty painful.

Your problem is your GM. How about drafting better? Hard for Manning to get the ball down the field when he doesn't have a supporting cast.

Beer Recipes / Re: Oatmeal Porter-Critique Please
« on: September 21, 2011, 08:28:21 AM »
I think I outlined my position above well enough, that I don't think Belgian Candi syrup would go well in a Porter for the reasons I stated. Just like I would tell people that I don't think Special B goes well in a DoppelBock (yes, I've tried it). That doesn't mean I am saying you shouldn't experiment with those ingredients if you like. That certainly would be subject to ridicule.

But, giving one's opinion on what would taste right in any given beer should not be subject to ridicule. That is my opinion, based on my personal experiences. You and I may disagree, but that doesn't make either of our positions subject to ridicule.

So, had you simply said "I disagree" I would be totally understanding of your position. But saying someone's experience or opinion on something as subjective as a beer recipe is "ridiculous" is just going a bit overboard IMO.

Ingredients / Re: OH MY GAWD...disgusting...yuck yuck
« on: September 21, 2011, 08:03:39 AM »
So, I'm doing a Zymurgy article and I thought I'd do some research on making hop teas to compare hops.  I've done this before with poor results, but I wanted to quantify things a bit.  Holy s***!  That has got to be some of the most vile, disgusting stuff to ever pass my lips!  3 hours later I can't get the harshness out of my mouth.  Do people actually make this stuff and put it in their beers?  Man, I shudder just thinking about what it tasted like.

That's how I feel about the green tea that is all the rage, these days.


I've tried hop tea both as a beverage and as an addition to beer, and yes...lousy for both and gag inducing.  And I love hops.

But green tea pukeworthy?  ...Really??   I think you must have had green tea that was made incorrectly. 
I've been drinking since my college days in the early 70's and find that green tea is generally mellower and even a touch sweeter on the palate than black tea.  The trick is to use water just short of boiling, and dont ever steep the leaves for more than 5 minutes.    Any hotter or  longer than that and you definitely will wind up with a tannic and tongue shriveling astringent cup of yuck.

Agree, I had no idea green tea was "all the rage". I guess I have been on the fringe on fashion for 20 years now.  ;) Like beer or coffe, green tea is an aquired taste. Now put your juice box down for a minute and give it a try.  ;)

Beer Recipes / Re: Oatmeal Porter-Critique Please
« on: September 21, 2011, 06:35:53 AM »
Treacle is a good suggestion. Personally I like all malt porters, and I like Robust Porters (around 1.065) much better that low traditional or brown porters, but that's just me. People should experiment with what they want (including possibly candi syrup), not everyone has the same taste in beer.

Beer Recipes / Re: Oatmeal Porter-Critique Please
« on: September 21, 2011, 06:19:01 AM »
Ridiculous??? I hardly think it is "ridiculous", I just think the flavors of Belgian Candi Syrup would remind me of a Dubbel, not a porter. Just like the raisin character of Special B stands out like a sore thumb in just about any non-belgian beer, to me at least. Doesn't matter what recipe it is in, if I taste special B I immediately think "belgian".

And, historic beers are kinda silly. Just because something was "historically" brewed one way doesn't mean it works today. Historically all beers were smoky and sour, that doesn't mean we should necessarily emulate that today. And if you wanna talk "histororic" I hardly think Porters used Belgian candi Syrup. That's not "historic" at all!

If you wanna add some sugar go with molasses or something that won't remind you of a belgian beer. That's my take on it, my recommendation - not cut in stone, not the arbiter of all things, but hardly "ridiculous" either.  ::)

Beer Recipes / Re: Oatmeal Porter-Critique Please
« on: September 20, 2011, 06:59:17 PM »
Agree, for a 5 gallon batch off the top of my head you are looking at needing 5-6 lbs (or so) of DME - whate size batch are you brewing?

Agree that Belgian Candi syrup really would be out of place in a  porter. What you would work nicely if you bump up the DME or 2 row so it actually hits 1.050 for a 5 gallon beer.

« on: September 20, 2011, 10:53:49 AM »
Hey, Lions have won something like 10 straight!

Pimp My System / Re: Anybody use Minibrew?
« on: September 19, 2011, 03:17:00 PM »
This is how much I liked mine: I gave it away last week. I don't think they are worth the money compared to stainless.

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Probably infected
« on: September 19, 2011, 04:53:11 AM »
FWIW aluminum foil, plastic bags, paper towels are sanitary from the roll/box.

I don't chance it. Sanitizing is EASY. It's BEER for gosh sakes!  ;D  Closing in on 400 batches in 12 yrs. with one contamination(batch #2).

ETA; I posted awhile back on how I thought I had a bad batch. It turned out fine, just didn't taste worth a s**t green...

I usually dump my paper towels in sanitizer, foil I do occasionally but don't sweat it if the foil is not dipped in sanitizer. For instance, if I am sanitizing a container to harvest yeast froma  fermenter I dunk the container and foil in sanitizer. But if I am just covering a bottom dump valve to keep it sanitary I just grab foil off the roll and cover it up. Paper towels I usually dunk but in a hurry I have been known to pull one off and use it as a sanitary surface. Convenience sometimes outweighs paranoia.  ;)

« on: September 18, 2011, 04:20:23 PM »
Boy, my Titans beat the PANTS off those girly RAVENS today! EAT IT Ranvens fans!!  :D

Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Sam Adams Octoberfest 2011
« on: September 18, 2011, 04:03:42 PM »
I've been slowing consuming the case I got . . still have 12 left. I discovered something last night when I decided to quick chill a bottle and placed it in the freezer. I left it in a little too long and the beer was almost slush. It still poured and I drank it literally ice cold. I preferred the flavor more at that temp than the 45 degrees I normally would drink it. I guess it subdued the caramel a little.

I get that it may be a bit more "caramelly" than one's from Germany, I don;t find it offensive at all. It's still a well balanced take on the style. Best Oktoberfest out there? no, but probably the best mass produced US made Oktoberfest.

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Probably infected
« on: September 18, 2011, 03:44:05 PM »
FWIW aluminum foil, plastic bags, paper towels are sanitary from the roll/box.

Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Sam Adams Octoberfest 2011
« on: September 18, 2011, 05:30:51 AM »
I've bought 2 six packs this year so far and may pick up a case at Costco. I think this is one beer SA does very, very well.

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