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Going Pro / Re: Cart before the horse? Maybe - meh...
« on: January 26, 2012, 06:08:19 PM »
Baically because the lack of a steam stack and the type of manway. Looks like what you have would suit a MT perfectly but I think you could find a better BK. Is there a reason you would rather use it as a BK?

Going Pro / Re: Cart before the horse? Maybe - meh...
« on: January 26, 2012, 05:30:31 PM »
There was a certain amount of construction that went into the steam build that I can't recall now. But if you have any doubts, check pro brewer. There are a few posts about people being shocked at the cost of installation.

No kidding, the boiler we looked at was 2-3K and the BK we looked at was 5K. The quote for installation was 30K.

I am having the finishing touches  of my BK installation installed tomorrow. If it works I will post all about it. Basically for my MT and BK it costs us about 15K and installation was about 3K because we had to get larger diameter gas ran over to the brewing area.

Going Pro / Re: Cart before the horse? Maybe - meh...
« on: January 26, 2012, 04:34:45 PM »
Looks like a better mashtun to me. in fact it looks almost exactly like my mash tun. I'd work on moving that direction and look for a BK that can be steam stacked.

That's what I was thinking too since it has a paddle configuration already in place. How are you going to get that monstrosity home Kyle?

Problem with the paddle configuration is you have to figure out how to work with it with the false bottom since the paddle attaches to the bottom. Not impossible but I haven;t worked mine out yet.

Going Pro / Re: Cart before the horse? Maybe - meh...
« on: January 26, 2012, 04:31:02 PM »
What did you wind up doing for a brew kettle?

I ended up with a used boiler. They are cheap and available. I'll take some pictures and post them soon. But my MT looks almost exactly what you have.

also, I'd recommend staying away from steam if you consider yourself on any type of a budget. You will absolutely choke up your lunch when you find out how much it costs to install. I was all ready to go with steam until the estimate came in. Boiler was cheap, jacketed BK was cheap too. Installation was over 30K.

Going Pro / Re: Cart before the horse? Maybe - meh...
« on: January 26, 2012, 02:58:16 PM »
Looks like a better mashtun to me. in fact it looks almost exactly like my mash tun. I'd work on moving that direction and look for a BK that can be steam stacked.

All Grain Brewing / Re: Maris Otter
« on: January 26, 2012, 09:47:50 AM »
MO is an english variety of barley and the english method of brewing is traditionally done with a single infusion so I don't understand why anyone would suggest you would need a p-rest on MO.

« on: January 26, 2012, 08:40:15 AM »
I'm actually looking forward to the game. I think it will be a good one. I will become a GIANTS fan for one day.  ;)

Zymurgy / Re: The Hop Squasher
« on: January 26, 2012, 06:00:04 AM »
for Ruthless I'm thinking Cascade or Centennial. Even though I don't care for Citra much it is very nice in a randall and I'm thinking it would pair nicely with Ruthless. Also a nice method to knock out some of the carbonation in that beer and make it softer.

Zymurgy / Re: The Hop Squasher
« on: January 25, 2012, 09:41:04 AM »
Well, it's not that tricky to serve a beer through one. Maybe you just don't care for the results? I can respect that.

The Pub / Re: A low blow
« on: January 25, 2012, 09:32:29 AM »
yeesh, that's a tough one.

At the start you want to give your friend the ole flying V for being at best an insensitive clod, but then people get weird and stressed out over the whole wedding thing

In my book, its hurtful, but one of those punches we have to take in life. (Besides, if the beer sucks, then you get the pleasure of schadenfreude. :)

Well said!

There are two situations I refuse to get offended over: weddings and newborn babies. People get weird about those topics and I don't think many of their decisions are ever logically thought out or intended as insults. But I understand why it feels like a snub.

Zymurgy / Re: The Hop Squasher
« on: January 25, 2012, 09:01:28 AM »
Doesn't that pretty much decarb the beer, too

I personally like my IPA and IIPA with low levels of carbonation. And, FWIW, you get a lot of foaming and some loss of carbonation with a randall as well. I know you think a randall is more a novelty than anything, but we have done some beers through one and I really like the results. I can see why this idea generates some excitement.

Equipment and Software / Re: Cheapest/best wort chilling device.
« on: January 25, 2012, 05:51:46 AM »
About 80f is as low as I can get mine in a reasonable amount of time with my well water. I place it in the converted freezer at fermentation temps until the next day then pitch the yeast.

+1, that's been my method too during the season when my tap water is too warm

+2. Never had a problem either.

Equipment and Software / Re: condenser as wort chiller
« on: January 25, 2012, 05:50:03 AM »
Noob question:

I had a thought after watching Moonshiners the other day - build a wort chiller like the condenser on a still (the worm).  So it would sort of be the reverse of a immersion chiller now - the tubing is submersed in ice water and the hot wort travels through the copper tubing.  Standard ICs seem to be pretty inefficient - how much tap water goes through to cool 5 gallons of wort.

Does anybody know why this isn't done?  If not, about how many feet of tubing do you think it would take to cool the wort down to pitching temps?

As others have said, this is nothing new. But I will say that when I first started brewing  I used this exact same technique, running 5 gallons of wort through my coiled copper chiller which was immersed in my sink with ice water. You have to keep the water moving (like stirring with your hand or something) otherwise the water near the coils warms up enough to become less effective. Also, I had to change my water 2 or 3 times for a 5 gallon batch. It was kind of a PITA.

The really nice thing about an immersion chiller is that you place it in the boil 20 minutes before knock out to sanitize it. And you can be sure the copper is clean and no patina is building up. You can't do this on a CFC. I much prefer an IC set up over a CFC for that convenience.

The Pub / Re: Having fun with sanitation
« on: January 24, 2012, 05:55:54 PM »
We used to drop matches into empty bottles of Bacardi 151 and it did essentially the same thing only faster.

I have not been able to see a correlation between using the acid rest and not using one. Kai did do one experiment.

I've never used yeast nutrients and I never had sulfur problems.

I remember when Kia posted his info. I'll admit I haven't done an acid rest since I have gone commercial and I seem to get plenty of clove phenols. But I do believe that an acid rest can help, otherwise I find it hard to believe that any brewery would waste the time performing one. But I don't think it is essential.

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