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Going Pro / Re: Where do breweries buy their ingredients?
« on: February 17, 2012, 02:50:12 PM »
Alaska and Korea are world apart.

I'm pretty sure they are on the same world. ;)

The Pub / Re: Happy 60th Birthday Denny!
« on: February 17, 2012, 10:42:18 AM »
Hey, Happy Birthday Denny.  What do you get the man who can brew anything???

Anything???  You wouldn't say that if you tasted this pils I've got around now.....

Dude. Don't shatter the image!  :P

The Pub / Happy 60th Birthday Denny!
« on: February 17, 2012, 09:38:18 AM »
I found out by poking around in another forum that Denny turned 60 on Feb. 14th (I think that's right). Happy birthday brotha! Whatdja do for the six-oh?

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: 1st time using liquid yeast
« on: February 16, 2012, 06:15:30 AM »

Thanks for the tips. I will probably just pitch the yeast w/o a starter (as i lack the space and knowledge to do so right now) I agree i look forward to getting to the point when i have the room, equipment, and knowledge to make better beer.
I gotta say, the equipment and space requirements are probably nill if you look at what you already have. I use a 1 qt mason jar 2/3 - 3/4 full of wort. space requirements are a square 4 inches on a side on your counter. but try it both ways and see.

Agree. As I mentioned earlier if you can;t make a 2 liter starter you are going to have trouble with a 5 gallon batch of beer. But I also agree with the comments above about just pitching the yeast will make beer. That said, I'd highly recommend pitching two vials/packs instead of one if you don't intend to make a starter. Also, if the vial/smack pack is anywhere even kinda close to its exp. date don't be surprised if you have a several day lag (which I will also add will stress you out greatly). If the yeast is still fresh you are probably ok to just pitch, but be sure you aerate the hell out of it. And I mean the hell out of it. Sit down in front of the TV and shake off and off for as long as you can stand it, and then come back an hour or so later and give it a go again.

FWIW when I first started homebrewing the liquid yeast pitch they gave you was so small you had to make a starter if you expected to make beer. This was before the days of the interwebs wirh only  a copy of Charlie P's book as a guide, and I managed to make one without any problems. DME, water, small pot, sanitized 2 liter coke jug. IIRC .25 lb DME per quart/liter will get you the starter OG you need.

For more information check this out:

The Pub / Re: Ha ha... so true...
« on: February 15, 2012, 07:05:08 PM »
That is awesome.

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: 1st time using liquid yeast
« on: February 15, 2012, 07:01:20 PM »
You really want to make a starter for liquid yeast. You will have much better luck, even if your starter only consists of getting the yeast active and pitching. you want the starter to be around 1.030 so it doesn;t take much DME. You can use just about any clean and sanitized container just be sure to aerate the starter well and often. Ideally you want to grow yeast (see pitching calculator at for details) but even pitching an active starter will be better than nothing.

Making a starter is easy, and as others have said: if you can;t make a 2L starter properly your gonna have lots of trouble with 5 gallons of beer.

Going Pro / Re: Leasing Equipment
« on: February 15, 2012, 06:49:18 PM »
I don't really understand contract brewing. It seems to me either you're selling your beer in-house, or you're distributing it to other retail channels. So you're acting as a marketing company as well as a bar and/or a distributor. It seems like it'd be more profitable to just be a bar or a distributor and sell brands that are already established instead of spending the time/money/energy developing your own brand. Am I missing something?

on top of this, think about the states that are not allowed to self distribute. In that case your only job is marketing. Better hope you have a graphic designer who will work for beer.  ;)

Going Pro / Re: Leasing Equipment
« on: February 15, 2012, 05:35:36 PM »
Scmaltz Brewery Company started out contracting and was making enough money to expand pretty big.  It looks like they're successful with the Hebrew beer line and the Coney Island beers.
The guy started out wanting a few cases as a gag for presents for relatives and realized there was a minimum batch size of 10 or 15 bbls.

Not saying this is the case but: if you can prove the business is viable via contract brewing you can probably get investors/bank loan. Not the same thing as bankrolling the expansion. I know for certain a contract brewer that has done that.

Going Pro / Re: Leasing Equipment
« on: February 15, 2012, 11:29:50 AM »
I haven't talked to any of those breweries but according to the two I have talked to the money is not there unless you are selling swag..

Going Pro / Re: Leasing Equipment
« on: February 15, 2012, 09:30:24 AM »
Have you onsidered contract brewing?
There is NO money for you in contract brewing.
Unless you are going to build up a brand up front and then build the brewery.

If you can find alternating proprietorship that might be better proposition.

+1. I have talked to too many contract brewers who say they haven't made a dime. contract brewing really is about marketing than brewing anyway. In fact I think it has very little to do with actual brewing. So you came up with a recipe. Big deal.

The "alternate proprietorship" at least gives you some control over the brewing part.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: centennial hops
« on: February 15, 2012, 05:44:46 AM »
I've found that too much Cents give my beer an unpleasant candy-like sweetness, so I've started to shy away from them.  Maybe I just need to crank up the sulfates with some water treatment.

Really? Maybe it is your source? Mine are always bright, clean and citrusy. I do like to blend them with columbus at the very least because they can be a little one dimensional on their own.

Going Pro / Re: Leasing Equipment
« on: February 15, 2012, 05:38:21 AM »
You might be able to lease an existing brewery. One of the local breweries here took over the equipment of a failing brewery and I know they lease the building and I'm pretty sure they are leasing the equipment as well. Not cheap, by any means.

Going Pro / Re: Where do breweries buy their ingredients?
« on: February 15, 2012, 05:32:53 AM »
I get most of my malts from country malt group - - I highly doubt they freight across the pacific. But you could call them and ask. My hops are contracted separately. I could PM you that info if you need but I have no idea if he could help you and most likely you would have to wait until next harvest.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: centennial hops
« on: February 14, 2012, 03:34:27 PM »
columbus, centennial and amarillo are excellent in combination, and a little simcoe at flame out too.

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