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Going Pro / Re: Rigging used dairy euipment for startup brewery
« on: August 29, 2011, 06:31:39 PM »
There are a quite a few breweries that started with used dairy equipment.
Used dairy equipment used to be plentyfull and cheap.
That was then and now is now.
If you are farmer you have a better info where to get used equipment.
To my knowledge there is none any more.

All that said you have potential 100 gallon tank.
You need to look at the whole picture when dealing with used equipment.
That means what kind of modification needs to be done is it would do what you need it for.

You suggest the steam heating.
Steam heating is great.
Do you know how much is a steam generator.

How do you clean it?
You just can not take 100 gallon tank tip it and clean it.

Does it have all necessary connections you want to have or some one will have to weld it?

Frugal way is a good way.
You already have a building for it and that is a great plus.
Good luck.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: My New Sour Beer Website
« on: August 29, 2011, 03:56:17 PM »
Hmmm ... looks like spam to me.  ;)
See if you get any sours next time you are up for a Titans game .... :)
Me too me too please. I will skip the game thou.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Salty beer?
« on: August 29, 2011, 03:35:07 PM »
It is Bo Pils. No sugar added at all :)

So far we sold 52 BBL (1612 Gallons) of beer (in 4 months) and this is first negative feedback.
May be that is why I am so worked up about it.

All other feedbacks are positive.

Thank you guys for help.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Salty beer?
« on: August 29, 2011, 02:46:04 PM »
This was first ever claim.
I adjust my water 60grams of calcium chloride and calcium sulfide (gypsum) for 180 gallons of finished wort.
I put it into the mash only.

Would Saaz be precived as salty?

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General Homebrew Discussion / Salty beer?
« on: August 29, 2011, 02:07:49 PM »
I just heard that my beer taste salty.
I am aware of sour, plasticky, green apple, corn... Taste descriptors.
I am not sure about that my beer left a salty aftertaste.
Anybody can help?

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Going Pro / Re: Brewery Financing for someone with no wealth/collateral
« on: August 23, 2011, 12:54:02 PM »
Keith and Leos have my respect for doing this and making a go of it.
Thank you Jeff.
It has been interesting ride so far.
I work much more then what I wished for.
People like our beers and each month I am brewing more.
Now the double brews are name of the game.

I/we have chosen a different route then Keith. We started this as a family business.
We are also in the state that we can self distribute our product.
Self distribution is a major cornerstone of our business plan.
Without it I would not open a brewery.
Another piece is that we took price of packaging out of the price of beer.
We bottle in non traditional format and ask deposit for the bottle.

A few (rough) statistics for brewery with distributor.
1,000 BBL a year = break even point.
3,000 BBL a year = doing O.K.
there is one employee for 1,000 BBL
If you self distribute cut the number of BBL in half.

Now make that on 1 BBL system.

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Double brew of Octoberfest. In the middle of the mash right now.

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Going Pro / Re: Labeling
« on: August 22, 2011, 07:25:45 AM »
Well I got a quote from Label Lady.
What a fiasco.

Labels what I am using right now (I print them myself) are about $0.013 a piece.
Got a quote for $0.20 a piece.
What a disappointment.

 :o
 :D

Surely that's a typo? twenty cents EACH?
No typo at all.
Twenty cents each neck label sticker 1.5" round.

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Going Pro / Re: Brewery Financing for someone with no wealth/collateral
« on: August 21, 2011, 05:20:14 PM »
Also, what's the deal with bopils water?
People ask what kind of water they should use to brew BoPils.
All they want to hear back is that it should be very soft.
If you tell them, that it can be from soft to moderate they ignore you.

Truth is that Bo Pils is brewed in the whole Czech and Slovak republic.
This is pretty large geographical area and water do very.

The same thing goes with size of brew system.
This discussion shows that people want to hear that brew on 1 BBL system is enough.
Truth is that there is only so many 100 hour weeks till your body said enough.

I made that transition.
Now I brew on 5 BBL system to 10 BBL fermenters and I still do not make enough.
I wish to have weekend off.

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Equipment and Software / Re: Utility Sink for Electric HLT
« on: August 21, 2011, 01:38:16 PM »
The temp tolerance would be the concern.
All that said I got these Utility tubs for CIP.
I think I will limit temp to 150F thou.

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Did someone said ProMash?

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Going Pro / Re: Labeling
« on: August 21, 2011, 01:32:53 PM »
Well I got a quote from Label Lady.
What a fiasco.

Labels what I am using right now (I print them myself) are about $0.013 a piece.
Got a quote for $0.20 a piece.
What a disappointment.

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Going Pro / Re: Brewery Financing for someone with no wealth/collateral
« on: August 21, 2011, 01:29:16 PM »
On a 5 or 10 gallon system the beer was always worth way more to me to drink or share with friends than to sell. You put In hours and hours of hard work just to turn around and sell and barely break even and if you count the time and labor you'd actually lose money.
Majorvices,
Somehow people do not want to listen.
Let them learn hard way.

It is like talking about water for BoPils.

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Ingredients / Re: Pilsner Malt Extract Yield: Best Malz vs. Weyermann
« on: August 20, 2011, 07:39:55 PM »
Also to my experience Best Pilsner has an better extract then Weyermenn Pilsner.

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Equipment and Software / Re: 1 to 3 barrel systems?
« on: August 20, 2011, 07:33:23 PM »
http://www.strombergtanks.com has a shaky reputation.
NABS was sold off to Allied Beverage Tanks out of Chicago.
Premier stainless has a great reputation. They buy their equipment in China and retrofit it in the US.

I read recently that Stout Tanks did custom electric 3 BBL brewhouse.
I did not buy anything from them so I do not know how reliable they are.

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