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Double brew of Octoberfest. In the middle of the mash right now.

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Going Pro / Re: Labeling
« on: August 22, 2011, 02:25:45 PM »
Well I got a quote from Label Lady.
What a fiasco.

Labels what I am using right now (I print them myself) are about $0.013 a piece.
Got a quote for $0.20 a piece.
What a disappointment.

 :o
 :D

Surely that's a typo? twenty cents EACH?
No typo at all.
Twenty cents each neck label sticker 1.5" round.

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Going Pro / Re: Brewery Financing for someone with no wealth/collateral
« on: August 22, 2011, 12:20:14 AM »
Also, what's the deal with bopils water?
People ask what kind of water they should use to brew BoPils.
All they want to hear back is that it should be very soft.
If you tell them, that it can be from soft to moderate they ignore you.

Truth is that Bo Pils is brewed in the whole Czech and Slovak republic.
This is pretty large geographical area and water do very.

The same thing goes with size of brew system.
This discussion shows that people want to hear that brew on 1 BBL system is enough.
Truth is that there is only so many 100 hour weeks till your body said enough.

I made that transition.
Now I brew on 5 BBL system to 10 BBL fermenters and I still do not make enough.
I wish to have weekend off.

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Equipment and Software / Re: Utility Sink for Electric HLT
« on: August 21, 2011, 08:38:16 PM »
The temp tolerance would be the concern.
All that said I got these Utility tubs for CIP.
I think I will limit temp to 150F thou.

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Did someone said ProMash?

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Going Pro / Re: Labeling
« on: August 21, 2011, 08:32:53 PM »
Well I got a quote from Label Lady.
What a fiasco.

Labels what I am using right now (I print them myself) are about $0.013 a piece.
Got a quote for $0.20 a piece.
What a disappointment.

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Going Pro / Re: Brewery Financing for someone with no wealth/collateral
« on: August 21, 2011, 08:29:16 PM »
On a 5 or 10 gallon system the beer was always worth way more to me to drink or share with friends than to sell. You put In hours and hours of hard work just to turn around and sell and barely break even and if you count the time and labor you'd actually lose money.
Majorvices,
Somehow people do not want to listen.
Let them learn hard way.

It is like talking about water for BoPils.

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Ingredients / Re: Pilsner Malt Extract Yield: Best Malz vs. Weyermann
« on: August 21, 2011, 02:39:55 AM »
Also to my experience Best Pilsner has an better extract then Weyermenn Pilsner.

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Equipment and Software / Re: 1 to 3 barrel systems?
« on: August 21, 2011, 02:33:23 AM »
http://www.strombergtanks.com has a shaky reputation.
NABS was sold off to Allied Beverage Tanks out of Chicago.
Premier stainless has a great reputation. They buy their equipment in China and retrofit it in the US.

I read recently that Stout Tanks did custom electric 3 BBL brewhouse.
I did not buy anything from them so I do not know how reliable they are.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: My New Sour Beer Website
« on: August 19, 2011, 01:22:31 AM »
Looking good

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Going Pro / Re: Brewery Financing for someone with no wealth/collateral
« on: August 18, 2011, 06:58:11 PM »
Twitter is a waste of time.
I disagree.  Twitter can be a great marketing tool - though too many out there just use it to point to their Facebook page.  

Czech mate!  ;) 
8)

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Going Pro / Re: Brewery Financing for someone with no wealth/collateral
« on: August 18, 2011, 06:47:40 PM »
Tim - I understand the concept. Since it's free, you don't lose anything but your time, so there's no reason not to do it, but how do you turn worldwide interest into cash in your pocket? Your long-lost out-of-town friends won't just send you money for nothing, will they? They still have to go to you establishment to buy your product.



Good point. A small local brewer doesn't benefit monetarily from a fan across the country that has never had his beer.

We actually decided NOT to have a facebook page as a "prestige and mystery" branding. It's worked well. I've had a lot of people show up at the brewery simply because they could not find out enough about us. Also, I hate facebook. So that worked well for me.  ;)
We use Facebook as marketing tool. Instead of connecting lost friends we connect current customers. It Actually works. Twitter is a waste of time.

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Going Pro / Re: Brewery Financing for someone with no wealth/collateral
« on: August 18, 2011, 06:43:39 PM »
Quote from: majorvices=topic=8666.msg109105#msg109105 date=1313687666
merry a loyer or a doctor.

Or an English teacher?  ;)  lol

The Coop I'm with is looking at starting with either a 10 or 15 barrel system.
Brewing Czech beers. I do not have to.

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Going Pro / Re: Brewery Financing for someone with no wealth/collateral
« on: August 18, 2011, 05:21:31 PM »
There are two kind of people who open breweries.
1) with love of the beer
2) with love of the money.
May be I am a fool but that is how I see it.

I think that's a good way to look at it, but I also think you need both kinds of person to run a business.

I obviously don't have a brewery, but a widget is a widget, and a business is a business (more or less). In my business we have one partner who provided most of the capital, and is very cautious/fastidious with money matters, one partner who has the passion and love for the business but isn't very good at saving or keeping money, and me who mostly provides sweat equity and a different perspective and makes the whole thing run smoothly.

I guess what I'm saying is, to start a business without much capital, along with all the other things you need we've talked about already, you need some business partners you can trust and who have the skills/personality you lack.
I do not necessary agree with you that brewing is just another business. We all know that it takes the same amount of hours and man power to brew 10 Gal batch or 10 gallon batch.
I do agree that brewing beer is food manufacturing thou.

Well kegs are done washing time to do something else.

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Going Pro / Re: Brewery Financing for someone with no wealth/collateral
« on: August 18, 2011, 05:14:26 PM »
Brew Monger - I guess you didn't see where I said I am an example of brewing on a 1bbl system. I'm still running a pro brewery on a system that is incredibly too small! I certainly know you can make it work, as long as you don't mind making it work without paying yourself anything. This is the only warning I have been trying to make through the entire thread - understand what you are getting into. You are talking about years of hard work, very little (if any) pay, and lots of over head capital and very litttle profit coming in. the only way to grow at a 1bbbl capacity is to either dig deeper into your savings, get a loan or find investors. because you will always only be making ends meet.
There is another way merry a loyer or a doctor.
Avoid teacher or fast food workers.

The point that a lot of small businesses would not survive without the second study family income.

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