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Twitter is a waste of time.I disagree. Twitter can be a great marketing tool - though too many out there just use it to point to their Facebook page.
We use Facebook as marketing tool. Instead of connecting lost friends we connect current customers. It Actually works. Twitter is a waste of time.Tim - I understand the concept. Since it's free, you don't lose anything but your time, so there's no reason not to do it, but how do you turn worldwide interest into cash in your pocket? Your long-lost out-of-town friends won't just send you money for nothing, will they? They still have to go to you establishment to buy your product.
Good point. A small local brewer doesn't benefit monetarily from a fan across the country that has never had his beer.
We actually decided NOT to have a facebook page as a "prestige and mystery" branding. It's worked well. I've had a lot of people show up at the brewery simply because they could not find out enough about us. Also, I hate facebook. So that worked well for me.
Brewing Czech beers. I do not have to.Quote from: majorvices=topic=8666.msg109105#msg109105 date=1313687666merry a loyer or a doctor.
Or an English teacher? lol
The Coop I'm with is looking at starting with either a 10 or 15 barrel system.
I do not necessary agree with you that brewing is just another business. We all know that it takes the same amount of hours and man power to brew 10 Gal batch or 10 gallon batch.There are two kind of people who open breweries.
1) with love of the beer
2) with love of the money.
May be I am a fool but that is how I see it.
I think that's a good way to look at it, but I also think you need both kinds of person to run a business.
I obviously don't have a brewery, but a widget is a widget, and a business is a business (more or less). In my business we have one partner who provided most of the capital, and is very cautious/fastidious with money matters, one partner who has the passion and love for the business but isn't very good at saving or keeping money, and me who mostly provides sweat equity and a different perspective and makes the whole thing run smoothly.
I guess what I'm saying is, to start a business without much capital, along with all the other things you need we've talked about already, you need some business partners you can trust and who have the skills/personality you lack.
Brew Monger - I guess you didn't see where I said I am an example of brewing on a 1bbl system. I'm still running a pro brewery on a system that is incredibly too small! I certainly know you can make it work, as long as you don't mind making it work without paying yourself anything. This is the only warning I have been trying to make through the entire thread - understand what you are getting into. You are talking about years of hard work, very little (if any) pay, and lots of over head capital and very litttle profit coming in. the only way to grow at a 1bbbl capacity is to either dig deeper into your savings, get a loan or find investors. because you will always only be making ends meet.There is another way merry a loyer or a doctor.
If you want to open a brewery please know how to brew and package clean beers.It remains to be seen if he can make a living though. I was embarrassed when an AHA bigwig was in town and was given a bottle that had clear contamination. I've gotten some bad bottles myself, and now mostly avoid the brand. His recipes are interesting and I hope he will be successful. But he's got to get the issues worked out or he'll fail no matter what the size of his system. Maybe he's already cleaned things up but I wouldn't know because, like I said, I'm avoiding the brand. I guess some people will keep going back for phenol-bombs, but not me.first person who shows me on paper how to make a living on a 1-2 bbl system get's a free beer. Once you run the numbers it becomes pretty clear. I can understand someone starting at 1-2 bbl (though, having gone through that I wouldn't recommend it necessarily) - can't ever understand staying at that level. The one exception I have been overlooking is a pub or tasting room. I'm considering production facility only.
Here is the website (Specificlly a photo showing his' brewery') for Epic Ales in Seattle. His beers can be found in local bars & local bottle shops. And apparently I exaggerated. He brews on a ONE barrel system.
Yes, printing companies can print on pressure sensitive material (sticker).I do not know how about in France but here are label printing companies that print labels.
They print labels for any bottle including beer bottles.
But do they require glue? That's what I'm hoping to avoid. And as far as recycling, stickers are IMO a better option, because you just peel them off. I'm thinking the Heineken-style "clear" stickers.
How about you? Do you know what you're talking about?I think you are over optimistic in this time about your equipment cost.