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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Brew Masters......up or down.....?
« on: November 29, 2010, 03:28:08 PM »
I liked it too.
I would say a BIG improvement from the last episode.

I enjoyed that they tryed to find the traditional way how to
make it and then adjust it to their enviroment.

What understand from the show that traditional Chicha does not have berley or hops.
By this standard it is not beer but fermented beverage.   

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Yeast Starter Sanitation
« on: November 27, 2010, 10:28:19 PM »
Don't know the results yet, but since I have a bottle of O2 in my shop, I sanitized a few feet of hose and hung it in the wort bubbling away for about 40 seconds during my first batch.

Is there such a thing as over oxygenating the wort?
Yes there is.
My understanding is that with too much oxygen you get fusel alcohol.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Tour De Bohemia
« on: November 27, 2010, 07:24:59 PM »
U Fleku:

Wood fired brewhouse with hand pump:

Wood fermentation vessels:

Wood lagering barrels:

Modern micro brewery:

Is that a Sinemar?

Fermentation log:

If you want to see bigger pic of fermentation log:

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Tour De Bohemia
« on: November 27, 2010, 03:21:22 AM »

No I do not think it is lack of money in the breweries.
I have seen newly expanded fermentation room with classical open fermenters.

Wood fermentation barrels were part of themed medieval complex.
I will post some pictures later.

No I did not visit Pivovarsky Klub in Prague.
We walked in Prague for 5 hours thou.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Tour De Bohemia
« on: November 26, 2010, 03:54:07 AM »
I would say "must see" are new micro breweries and brewpubs.
"Spolek Pratel Piva" has a great list of all breweries by region.

If you want to visit brewery you have to arrange it in advance.
Most breweries have fee of about $10.
You can buy great beer glasses in brewery gift shop for about $2.
They might not speak English.

U Fleku is Tourist trap and beer is overpriced but worth to go there once in lifetime.

General Homebrew Discussion / Tour De Bohemia
« on: November 25, 2010, 07:48:04 PM »
Recently I visited Czech and Slovak republic.
I sampled as many beers as possible and visit as many breweries as possible.
Book “Good Beer Guide Prague & the Czech Republic” was a great help:
These are my thoughts about it.

I visited two large and two small breweries and sampled over 30+ beers.
They were from 10 Plato (4% ABV) to 24 Plato (10% ABV).
Most of the beers were fermented with lager yeast but there were some that were fermented with ale yeast.
Beer market is quite versatile.
You can find Czech Pilsners 10, 12 and special 16.
Dark Beer 11 or 13.
Kvasinkove pivo (Unfiltered, unpasteurized with live yeast mostly cloudy).
Some Ales like ESB...
Non alcoholic beer.

Taste of Bohemian Pilsner vary by brewery from VERY malty to watery. Most of them are in balanced area. A few of them are balanced and bright. Only one had slight lingering bitterness. Aroma is mostly malty. Hop aroma is non present.

Most of Dark beers are too sweet even for natives but there are some dark beers like U Fleku that are restrained with sweetens. Dark beers have very little or no roast.

When you drink 10 or 12 beer from the same brewery you almost can not say the difference.
Czech drinkers prefer low alcohol beers and most of the beers you find are about 4.5 ABV.

Breweries do at least double decoction brewing process.
Most people in breweries fallow the traditional process and do not know exactly why they are doing it.

In one brewery I was told they use three different hops: extract, plugs and pallets but they did not know the variety. In another brewery I was told that “we use pallet hops and they come from Germany”. They also did not know the hop variety.

I tasted a malt from two maltsters. I was surprised that Pilsner malt was more chewy. It felt like it was not dryed enough but it had nice rich taste with pleasant sweetness. In one brewery I saw grain bags with Cyrillic letters.

Lager breweries have modern equipment and they are VERY proud of their packaging lines.
After EACH bottling they do preventive maintenance and they disassemble, inspect and clean packaging machinery. May be the brewery on “Brewmasters” TV show should take a notice. Smaller breweries still use wood fired brewhouses.

Open fermenters are used most of the time. You can find some breweries with conical fermenters.
I have seen one small brewery that beer was fermented in open wood barrels and lagered in closed wood barrels. Beer was fantastic.

Most of large breweries were bought up by InBev, SAB Miller or Heineken. There are still smaller regional breweries in Czech republic that are independent. In Slovak Republic it is bleaker. There are only 3 independent mid size breweries left.

Microbrewery trend is picking up and they produce great beers.
Pilsner Urquell (owned by SAB Miller) is still highly regarded beer and is available all over the country.
Budvar (owned by Czech state) survived only because of it's ownership.

If you made it down here, thank you for reading.

The Pub / Re: Passsword problems
« on: November 24, 2010, 10:22:08 PM »
Sorry about your trouble.
Have you heard of Linux?

The Pub / Re: Where are the experts?
« on: November 24, 2010, 10:17:57 PM »
As a reformed IT consultant, we used to have an expression that "an expert is anyone from out of town."
50 years old who lives at least 50 miles away.
That was "Expert" in my last company.

All Grain Brewing / Re: Sparge Arm Ideas?
« on: November 24, 2010, 03:59:00 AM »
This what the Tubercle did for years until he became Dennyfied.
Sorry to hear that man.
Is that curable  ;D

All Grain Brewing / Re: Decocotion mash
« on: November 24, 2010, 03:55:59 AM »
If I do decoction I do single decoction from 143F to 160F.

The Pub / Re: kids need to learn the important stuff early....
« on: November 21, 2010, 08:28:42 PM »
In my state it is completely legal for a parent to give a minor alcohol.
Legal in Wisconsin to share alcoholic drink with your child at home or in the restaurant/bar as long as it does not violate house rules of establishment.

Now think about the communion wine.
Is that legal?
Minor are been serve alcohol in churches not by their parents.

The Pub / Re: In case you wonder what happened to me
« on: November 21, 2010, 08:12:15 PM »
Kai great to see you back.

Equipment and Software / Re: refrigerated truck as fermentation lager house
« on: November 21, 2010, 03:02:27 AM »
FTR I bought a 12X12 WiC for around 4K. That's pricey, sure. But so's a Truck. Of course I can't drive my WiC.
You got yourself a great deal.
Good for you.

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Lager strains
« on: November 20, 2010, 01:02:02 PM »
Brewing Science Institute does NOT refer to 830 and 2124 as a yeast of the same origin.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Lagering temps.....
« on: November 20, 2010, 12:41:03 PM »
I am only a few feet ahead of you, but immensely enjoyed reading this:

I think this is still a great book for a brand new homebrewer.  Some of the other books out there like How to Brew or Designing Great Beers can be a bit intimidating if you're just getting started.  Charlie's book may be a bit dated on some of the technical information but is an enjoyable read and gets you the gist of what you're supposed to be doing.
This was a book I started with.
I look at how to brew as a "reference" book.

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