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Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC
« on: April 16, 2014, 02:47:09 PM »
I just inputted all of the entry counts into a spreadsheet of those sites that have their results posted for 2014. Based on the 4 sites that have posted already only 1 site was close to the ideal 750 entry count. Lots of info can be derive like averages, deviations, max, min counts.

My info is coming from the Results page for each site found at

Here is my spreadsheet;

I'll be updating as the results get posted.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Noob judge observations
« on: April 10, 2014, 04:06:54 PM »
You judged 35 different entries in one day or over two days?  Even over two days, that's over 17 beers in a day.  I know you're a newer judge, but most competitions should be striving to keep entries down to 10 - 12 per day (that's an am/pm session) to keep the feedback quality up and judge wear down low.  The checklist style score sheet helps, but not that much....

The competitions that I have worked have had that many entries per flight.

True, but they usually split a large flight between several groups of judges and then do a mini-BOS, correct?

As a judge, it usually takes me about 10 - 15 minutes to evaluate a beer, write up the score sheet (traditional not checklist style), and discuss the entry with the other judge.  This doesn't include the time that it takes to do a mini-BOS either.  I purposefully avoid competitions that treat judges like factory machines to pump out entries.  My point, since this is a thread about Noob judging experiences, was that most competitions don't ask their judges to do 19 entries in a single day like udubdawg did.  Quality feedback should be the priority at competitions, not blowing through large numbers of entries.  How did your hand feel afterwards?

I felt like that once. I judged 17 beers for a Commercial Judging Competition. Of course this is the only competition that I know that pays it's judges. They sent out $50 checks to everyone that judged so no one really complains judging 15-20 beers.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC 2014
« on: April 08, 2014, 03:33:03 PM »

Will first round entries per category per site be posted?

they were last year and I suspect will be again., 90 IPAs.  that's a lot of disappointed brewers of great beer. 
I would be the first to admit I focused on categories with less insane competition levels.  2x Dark lager, 2x Cider.

I just looked at the judge assignment which have the entry counts per category. These were the low count.
Cat 1: 11 entries
Cat 2: 5 entries
Cat 3: 8 entries
Cat 4: 10 entries
Cat 7: 12 entries
Cat 27: 5 entries
Car 28: 6 entries
Cat 24: 5 entries

I'm curious how the other regions have their entries broken down by category. I've been wondering with the 4 beers per entrant if this has changed the type beers people are entering.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC 2014
« on: April 08, 2014, 02:51:13 PM »
I judged in San Diego over the weekend. A couple of thoughts and observations;
I judged IPA and American Ales

About 90 IPA's were judged, About 20 advanced to a mini-BOS.

About 60 American Ales were judged, 15-18 advanced to mini-BOS

This is the first time I used the "Checklist" Scoresheets. I like them. At first I was hesitant, but I think they are effective. Talking to other judges, they had the same sentiment.

If you want to have better odds on advancing to the 2nd round, brew lagers, ciders, and meads. Most of them had less than 10 entries per category. I believe the Pilsner category only had 5 entries.

Quaff and the local organizers run a great 1st round. They get a lot of judges. For the IPA category, they had 22 judges and most if not all were BJCP certified. I don't think any judges judged more than 10 beers per flight.


All Grain Brewing / Re: astringency
« on: February 25, 2014, 07:03:35 PM »
When is the last time you have calibrated your thermometer? You might be thinking you are under 170 and may not be.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Carboy Disaster
« on: February 20, 2014, 05:36:27 PM »
I sold all but 1 carboy about a month ago.

This Happened,

Resulted in This;

Ingredients / Re: Water adjustment for an Old Peculier clone
« on: February 20, 2014, 04:53:09 PM »
On a side note, they do open Fermentation, I've been to the brewery before and had a nice tour.

Homebrew Competitions / Pacific Brewers Cup
« on: August 12, 2010, 07:47:16 PM »
Registration is now OPEN for the 14th Annual Pacific Brewers Cup hosted by the Long Beach Homebrewers,Pacific Gravity, and the Strand Brewers. This is an AHA/BJCP sanctioned event. Head on over to  to enter in the competition and/or sign up as a judge or steward. The competition usually brings out the best homebrewers in the Los Angeles area and beyond. Last year there were over 250 entries for the event.

With drop-off locations in Long Beach, Culver City, Woodland Hills, Laguna Niguel, and Riverside at your convenience, dropping off your beer should not be a hindrance.

Rock Bottom Brewery in Long Beach, CA
September 25, 2010 at 9:00 AM

Important Dates:
Beer Registration: Now until September 12, 2010
Beer Drop Off Dates: September 1-12, 2010
Judging: September 25, 2010

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