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Kegging and Bottling / Re: First kegging attempt, Explosion
« on: January 28, 2014, 11:36:02 AM »
Is it just two?  If there are others, I would open the tap and release some pressure if I were you.

You could probably turn them upside down, open the tap and release pressure without losing too much beer.  But if it's pushing foam it may be 6 of one, half a dozen of the other as far as what you lose.

If any of it was bottled, I'd look at protecting those, too.  Or popping them open to release pressure and recapping.  Anything is better than exploding glass, except maybe exploding kegs.

Kegging and Bottling / Re: First kegging attempt, Explosion
« on: January 28, 2014, 10:56:36 AM »
Maybe the rubber bung should be forced out before a failure?

The pressure actually seals the bung tighter.  The center of the bung is wider at the base (inside the keg) and so the pressure seals it more tightly against the rubber grommet part of the bung.

Ah, now I see. 
Gotta say that just seems like rolling the dice to use those with priming sugar. 

I've rigged up schrader valves to allow for forced carbonation on these kegs.  If I prime them, I use carb tabs and go with a lower number than the directions would call for.

I don't use them so much these days but it's a nice size to give to someone which is mainly what I'll do.  Keg some up and give them as gifts.  I also built some taps for these back when I was using them frequently.

Kegging and Bottling / Re: First kegging attempt, Explosion
« on: January 28, 2014, 10:47:28 AM »
So, what the he!! is going on with the "relief" valve on these exploding kegs? Does the beer make them stick? If the kegs are failing at a lower pressure than the relief is rated to that seems to speak to some really shoddy craftsmanship. Or am I missing something here? That happened once.

There is no relief valve on mini-kegs.

Also, I'm starting to think that maybe the priming sugar was not mixed well.  How did you add the sugar and it what amounts?

The other kegs should dent out if they over carb.  Hopefully they don't explode.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Stoopid Polar Vortex!
« on: January 28, 2014, 09:32:34 AM »

In general, I think society has become much more cautious about these things (extreme weather just being one example) as society has become much more litigious.

I have no idea if they're closing the private schools in the City.  I know the universities are not closing.

I also know that I moved my saison this morning to be right near the heating vent as the basement temps are a little chillier.

Kegging and Bottling / Re: First kegging attempt, Explosion
« on: January 28, 2014, 09:06:05 AM »
I know there are differing opinions on this site regarding decreasing the amount of priming sugar required for the same level of carbonation in a larger vessel.

It is my experience with mini-kegs that you want to use a reduced amount of priming sugar than you would use for bottles.  I never had one explode, but I have had them punch out into football shaped kegs.

Though I do have to agree that explosion would indicate that the beer was not finished or it was infected.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Stoopid Polar Vortex!
« on: January 28, 2014, 08:53:41 AM »
Just having to vent this morning as my kids are off school again today because according to the powers that be it is just too cold! My kids have not had a full week of school since winter break ended either due to cold or snow or some national holiday. Mind you I have one in HS, one in Jr. high and one in 5th grade, they all take buses or carpools to school and since we are in the modern age here, all schools are climate controlled environments!!!

Everyone I know goes to work each day, some wait outside for public transportation even, I know contractors that get bundled up to work outside, I see pothole patchers daily braving the elements and I still take my dog for a walk. Since when did we all become a society of wimps?

I do understand that not all people live in the 'burbs and may walk to school or whatever but this is Chicago, we do have winter and it is usually cold, we all have winter jackets, gloves, hats, scarves and boots so bundle up people and get real, this is just ridiculous already!

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.................

Relax.  It's for the kids.

But seriously, I don't disagree with you in general.  However, in a large public school system like Chicago's I understand that not all families are as well equipped with cold weather gear.  This cold is extreme, if not so much in intensity as in duration.  It's wreaking havoc on infrastructure and I'd hate to see something happen to a kid because the parents were ill-equipped for the cold or just bad circumstances in frigid temps.

What bothered me more was last year they closed schools in anticipation of snow.  Because we all know that the forecast is exactly what will happen.

However, it's not just the cold.  We get the same thing in the summer when its hot.  I don't know when people lost the common sense to cool off when its hot and bundle up when its cold, but it sure seems like something changed in the last 30 years or so.  Probably the widespread distribution and reliance on A/C.

Kegging and Bottling / Re: First Kegging Attempt - Pressures?
« on: January 28, 2014, 08:43:38 AM »
I just leave the gas hooked up at 30 and shake for a bit while the keg is upright.  You can hear the gas continuously pushing in.

If you've been hooked up for awhile and you're not getting the carbonation you want or expect, I would definitely check for leaks.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Fining agents
« on: January 27, 2014, 02:56:36 PM »
I use gelatin to drop extremely stubborn yeast.  I prefer to do it in the fermenter, rather than the keg but both work fine.

I always forget the Irish moss.  I honestly can't recall the last time I used it.

Nothing clears beer like extended conditioning, though.  Of course, some beers need to be drunk right now.

Finally, I don't think the fining agent cares if you used extract or not.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: It's here!
« on: January 24, 2014, 02:41:21 PM »
That must be a nice feeling.  Congrats.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Stoopid Polar Vortex!
« on: January 24, 2014, 12:42:30 PM »
Bah.  It ain't so bad.

I just order my milled grains and they're ready for pick up on my way home.

10 gallons shall be brewed on Sunday in my kitchen.  Hopefully the steam doesn't freeze up on the inside of the windows.

Beer Recipes / Re: Which Cocoa Powder for a Mocha Stout
« on: January 24, 2014, 09:17:31 AM »
Why not use Bakers chocolate or Ghirardelli chocolate and add to the end of the boil. Actually, if you want powder, Ghirardelli has cocoa powder of sorts. Check at Walmart in the baking isle.... You'll find much better quality chocolate products there than chocolate milk mix.

Bakers chocolate is what I use in my stout.  Usually Ghirardelli, but sometimes the regular baking bar in a red package (Nestle?).  I go for a minimum if 80% cacao in the bar.  I add four ounces to the boil, never had an issue with sludge nor with head retention.

I may have used Ghirardelli powder once or twice, but that would have been years ago.

Regardless, the chocolate flavor comes through.  It is a background flavor, but it is there.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: AHA Financials
« on: January 24, 2014, 09:12:58 AM »
No financials, but it does mention that the conference has been profitable since 2007. If someone were questioning that though, I'd have two points. 1- As mentioned before, it should be somewhat profitable or it would die. It's impossible to run a perfectly break even conference and AHA needs to err on the black side. 2- I'm sure registrations alone do not make it profitable. Lots of companies pay (good money I'm sure) to sponsor the conference.

I certainly hope no one is out there suggesting that the AHA or any similar organization should not operate in the black.   Being a "not-for-profit" does not mean that they do not have a need to follow basic business principles and seek to remain a going concern.  I'd be concerned about paying dues to an organization that is failing not to one that is growing successfully and achieving results (such as legalization bills) as the AHA is doing.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: AHA Financials
« on: January 23, 2014, 10:35:08 AM »
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If you like a product buy it.  If you don't like a product don't buy it.  The choice is yours.  You can help determine the success or failure of an enterprise.  Vote with your dollars.

No one is forcing you to participate.

There you go getting your shorts in a bunch about people getting their shorts in a bunch.  It's a vicious circle.

But seriously, I understood the OP to be requesting more information about the product, not bashing it in anyway.  I don't think any of us on the forum (well most of us at least) feel that we're not getting our money's worth out of being members, but I also don't think a request for basic financials is out of line.  If it answers peoples questions, that's great and we have less b****ing.  If it makes people raise questions, that's their right as members isn't it?  I assume that there are reasonable answers to reasonable questions.

FWIW, if I received an AHA annual report I'd probably toss it into the recycling along with all the others.  But someone must read that stuff or they wouldn't print it, would they?

All Grain Brewing / Re: BIAB advice
« on: January 22, 2014, 01:58:33 PM »
At what point does the "ease" of BIAB stop being easy?  2 pots, a lift for the bag...a lot of the stuff I see people doing for "easy" BIAB is more work than using a mash tun.

I don't disagree with you and I'm was just sort of thinking out loud, as it were.

But if I was set on doing BIAB for a large beer, I'd split the mash before I'd rig up some sort of hoist. The whole hoist thing just seems like too much. 

A little extra time boiling and one extra pot to clean seems like a lot less work than a hoist and maybe you're in the same place you'd be with cleaning a mash tun and a pot. 

All Grain Brewing / Re: BIAB advice
« on: January 22, 2014, 01:23:22 PM »
Could you not split the mash into two separate pots?  I suppose you might be collecting more wort that way, but it seems that it might help to manage brewing bigger styles using BIAB as far as the weight of the bag of grain goes.

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