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Extract/Partial Mash Brewing / Re: Hop Extract
« on: May 07, 2014, 12:12:02 PM »
I only use hop extract in our Pliny clone. Otherwise, it is just too vegetal.

The only time we were able to enter it in a comp (usually just drink it all), it nabbed a third place.

Amanda,

A couple clarifications, please.  You use only hop extract in your Pliny clone, as in no pellets or whole hops?  Or, your Pliny clone is the only beer in which you use extract?

Extract looks a tad pricey at $3 for 5ml.  The Bertus Brewery recipe calls for 60ml of extract.  But I haven't looked at other recipes yet to see the sheer volume of hops.

Regardless, this will not be a cheap beer for sure.

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Extract/Partial Mash Brewing / Re: Hop Extract
« on: May 07, 2014, 11:47:57 AM »
Otherwise, it is just too vegetal.

Hadn't thought of that.  Now you've got me thinking again.

Is it easy to over do the hop extract?

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Extract/Partial Mash Brewing / Re: Hop Extract
« on: May 07, 2014, 11:40:00 AM »
Good to know.  I'll skip the hop extract.

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Extract/Partial Mash Brewing / Hop Extract
« on: May 07, 2014, 10:58:51 AM »
I need to brew an IPA for an upcoming celebration.  I don't typically brew IPAs, but I've been asked for one.

I thought I might do a Pliny clone, but some of the recipes I've seen call for hop extract which I've never used.

For those of you who have, is it necessary?  Can I brew something close without it?

I may go with something a bit smaller than Pliny or I may do two batches.  Not sure.  Still thinking.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: local brew shop
« on: May 07, 2014, 10:33:37 AM »
The grain bill is as reads
9Lbs 2row
2LBS caramel/crystal 20L
2Lb white wheat
1LB victory
5oz cascade hops
1 pack white labs WLP001

I do want to support them and will continue to do so however for the 2 row I will probably start buying bulk to save some cash.

With tax, $41 seems about right.  Assume $1.50 per lb average for the grains ($21).  $2 per ounce for the hops ($10).  Maybe $7 for the yeast.  Add tax and there you are.

Those prices seem in-line with what I see these days, and not far off what you'd pay on-line.  Hops in bulk will be cheaper.

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Kegging and Bottling / Re: Keg Manufacturer Preference
« on: May 07, 2014, 09:40:59 AM »
I think these are hard to beat at $83 though.

The Class 2 ones are even cheaper.  I think they're just dinged up, but I haven't bought any.

This thread, however, has made me go and buy 4 3-gallon pin locks from AIH.  I don't REALLY need more kegs, but all of mine are in various stages of full.

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The Pub / Re: Pete Coors doesn't get it
« on: May 07, 2014, 09:39:12 AM »
I can state definitively that the last macro I had was an Old Style at Wrigley Field, and that's because the beer choices there are awful.

I thought they quit selling Old Style at Wrigley.  I was there last night and saw not a single Old Style vendor.

No Bud for me, thanks.

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The Pub / Re: Whiskey
« on: May 06, 2014, 06:55:35 AM »
I think Buffalo Trace produces many fine products.

I agree.  Buffalo Trace has a good line up.

Elmer T. Lee is delicious and is better than many more expensive bourbons.

Weller is good stuff, too.  I can't find the twelve year, but I picked up an antique and a special reserve last week.

For my money, I'd avoid the Ridgemont Reserve.  It's a bit harsh and takes a long time to mellow with ice.  It has a high amount of rye in the grain bill, so maybe that's it.  Might be good in a manhattan.

I went on a bit of a spree last week and picked up the two Weller's, the Ridgemont and a bottle of Evan Williams Single Barrel.  The EW Single Barrel is quite good.

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The Pub / Re: quotations
« on: May 05, 2014, 01:11:54 PM »
Again, I completely disagree.  It's all about education.

I completely agree.  Truth isn't dependent on popular opinion.

Popular t-shirts with a quote people want to believe are going to win this one, I believe.

True or not, this quote will live on.

So we disagree.  I think we can agree on that.
I don't disagree that the quote will live on, but I think it matters.  It is marketing without substance, based on a lie, and I can't support that.  But you go ahead. ;)
Triple hop brewed!

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/222/113235/

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The Pub / Re: quotations
« on: May 05, 2014, 12:01:34 PM »
Again, I completely disagree.  It's all about education.

I completely agree.  Truth isn't dependent on popular opinion.

Popular t-shirts with a quote people want to believe are going to win this one, I believe.

True or not, this quote will live on.

So we disagree.  I think we can agree on that.

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The Pub / Re: quotations
« on: May 05, 2014, 10:45:24 AM »
Ben Franklin didn't say that.

"When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."

It no longer matters if Ben Franklin said it or didn't.
I completely disagree.  It matters.

Well, it may matter to you but you're too late. That horse is out of the barn.

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The Pub / Re: quotations
« on: May 05, 2014, 07:39:35 AM »
Ben Franklin didn't say that.

"When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."

It no longer matters if Ben Franklin said it or didn't.

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nah, but you get extra exercise walking back and forth to the kegerator

Not if you fill a pitcher.

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My kegs are in the basement, so if I have company I'll usually just fill a pitcher.

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Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Utopias
« on: May 02, 2014, 08:18:45 AM »
Triple bock was still.  Is Utopia carbonated?  I honestly have zero recollection of it other than to know that I drank it on my front porch.  Sometime between my 30th and 35th birthdays.

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