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Zymurgy / Re: Cider yeast article - more info wanted
« on: November 12, 2013, 01:29:40 PM »
My recollection is that cider is typically pretty standard at about 1.055 OG, but I suppose that could vary.

That's about the average of the juice I get from my trees.

Good to know my mind is not completely shot.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Home beer and wine survey- results?
« on: November 12, 2013, 01:27:37 PM »
Interesting.  Apparently, despite what my mother told me, I'm pretty average...

FWIW, "highly affluent" and household income of $75,000 are not usually in the same sentence.

Median income for a family of four in the Cook County area is $73,625 per HUD.

But I'm nit picking now.

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Zymurgy / Re: Cider yeast article - more info wanted
« on: November 11, 2013, 02:53:15 PM »
The Home Brew Talk cider forum has the most extensive thread I've ever seen on making cider with various yeasts.  It does not necessarily have tasting notes from BJCP judges but he does report his FG.

My recollection is that cider is typically pretty standard at about 1.055 OG, but I suppose that could vary.

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Going Pro / Re: Sourcing Glassware
« on: November 09, 2013, 08:48:45 AM »
SHipping is pretty crazy. i was looking at 250 glasses of 2 different types and the shipping was about 25% of the quote. i can only imagine the shipping would get cheaper as you order more because of freight costs.  Still not a bad deal at about 2.50 a glass or so! How is the glass quality Joe?  Did you have any breakage etc?

Jeff

Zero breakage. They were well packed and delivered on a pallet. I'm not far from them (I thnk they're in Milwaukee) so that might have kept shipping lower. I don't recall for sure but shipping could well have been 100+. Regardless, all in cost was under $2 per glass.

The glasses are solid standard shaker glasses. No frills but sturdy. There's at least one other organization locally that orders from them for wine glasses for a fundraiser. I believe one of the local bars also orders from them, but they go with tulips so the prices are much higher.

Never priced Boelter but I think that was the other place recommended by the bar owners.

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Going Pro / Re: Sourcing Glassware
« on: November 08, 2013, 01:50:41 PM »
Yes.  With shipping.

I think the cost per glass was $1.40 before shipping.

Total cost was under $900 IIRC.

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Step-up starter
« on: November 08, 2013, 01:49:50 PM »
Regarding the time, I'll let it ferment in the primary for 5 weeks, then straight to the bottle, then I won't drink for at least months... if I'm patient.

Let the beer set the timeframe.  Bottle it when it's done and not before.  6 weeks won't hurt if that's what it takes.

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Step-up starter
« on: November 08, 2013, 11:14:44 AM »
Everything Mort says is correct.

What most people mean when they talk about stepping up a starter is doubling the size of the starter at each step.

I will sometimes decant my 1 liter starter and add a fresh liter of wort.  I'm probably not getting as much yeast growth, but whatever.  It's worked for me just fine.

On occasion, I'll use a growler to make a larger starter.

If I were you, I'd make that second step a whole liter to get as much yeast as possible for a big stout.

As for attenuation, sometimes big beers just need time even with an appropriate pitch of yeast.

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Going Pro / Re: Sourcing Glassware
« on: November 08, 2013, 09:58:04 AM »
We did 500 or so shaker glasses from Grandstand for an event in September.  I can't say enough good things about them.  Customer service was great.  Printing and delivery was timely.  Good people, good service, good product, good price.

We did three color printing and we were under $2 a glass.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Converting you wife
« on: November 07, 2013, 03:49:08 PM »
Wasn't that Jerry Seinfeld's signature move?

Bingo!

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Converting you wife
« on: November 07, 2013, 11:55:01 AM »
Protein rest to convert my wife....  I'll give it a try.   8)

A hotter mash will get you more sweetness.

Do you stir that mash?  And if so, clockwise or counter-clockwise?

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Phenolic off-flavour issue
« on: November 07, 2013, 08:01:36 AM »
'Tis easier to beg forgiveness than to ask permission.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: First "big" beer
« on: November 06, 2013, 02:34:06 PM »
I know it's not part of your question but don't forget aeration and a big pitch of yeast.  These are especially critical for a big beer IMO.

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Phenolic off-flavour issue
« on: November 06, 2013, 09:36:40 AM »
I recently joined the "I hate plastic" club after way too many contaminated batches.  I switched to glass carboys last year and will never look back again.

And I've gone the opposite way.  No offense, Dave, but I look at it as a technique problem, not an equipment problem.

I'm with Denny on this one.  I don't use buckets, but I do use Better Bottles and have had some of them for close to 10 years.  They work great.  I've had only a couple batches get infected over the years and I don't think it's related to the fermenters as I still use them and have no persistent problems.

I used to love my glass carboys but I got rid of them all last year after I cracked one with one of my kids nearby.  I just don't need the risk.

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: The cheap yeast
« on: November 05, 2013, 08:34:15 AM »
The only time I've had a problem with old yeast was a recent pitch of an expired packet of Nottingham.

I pitched a second packet (also expired) after 24 hours and then a packet of Windsor when there was no activity 36 hours later.

The beer turned out great, so it wasn't really a problem.

Since I'm making starters anyway when I use liquid yeast, I've never really been to concerned about it.

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The Pub / Re: Any statisticians here?
« on: November 05, 2013, 07:55:47 AM »
I hated statistics in grad school.  Hated it.

But you ought to be able to do anything you need to in Excel.

I'm pretty rusty so I'd likely be no help.

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