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The Pub / Re: Cask Ale vs Alcopop
« on: October 27, 2010, 07:18:00 PM »

Ok, I get it.  :) I'm not saying everyone will give up homebrewing obviously, we've got lots around here.  But maybe not as many as if we had bad beer.

 Maybe I live in an anomaly; we currently have 141k people in our county.
1 - Good brewpub (occasional cask ale)
2- Terrible brewpubs (one may come back around)
1- future brewpub (unkown brewers) which may open around spring
0- good beer bars
0- homebrew clubs (seriously not one) (may change if i can find a couple more interested brewers)

Check with the brewpubs and see if they know of any other homebrewers in the area and see if the good one would be willing to host a meeting.  They will probably even let you put up some flyers.  Something along the lines of - "Do you brew your own beer?  Do you want to learn?  Come to a meeting of the Fruita Lager and Ale Brewers . . . "

You might only get one or two people at first, but it will grow eventually.

PS - I just named your club FLAB  ;D

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Other Fermentables / Re: Vinegar anyone?
« on: October 27, 2010, 07:10:37 PM »
I'm guessing the acetobacter were present on the apples to begin with.  If you had bottled it and drank it or just kept it colder you might never have noticed, but given the long time it spent aging at cellar temps and the plastic wrap allowing air to enter, it allowed the acetobacter to go to work.

That's just a guess.  But at least now you have some cider vinegar  ;D

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The Pub / Re: Cask Ale vs Alcopop
« on: October 27, 2010, 04:00:16 PM »
I'm just offering an example, the best brewpubs IMO have a great relationship with their local homebrewers. Therefore, the flip side is that homebrewers didn't give up homebrewing when great beer became available.  Hope that makes sense.  :)

Ok, I get it.  :) I'm not saying everyone will give up homebrewing obviously, we've got lots around here.  But maybe not as many as if we had bad beer.

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All Things Food / Re: Fruit... pathetic
« on: October 27, 2010, 03:57:57 PM »
...We evolved past eating only meat...

'We' never ate only, or even primarily meat. While there was a related species of hominid that looked a lot like our ancestors that was nearly carnivorous, our ancestors have been omnivorous for ever. Look at chimps. In fact evolutionarily speaking we ate mostly plant foods cause they are easier to catch.
As the joke goes, "what do you mean 'we' kemosabe?"

The arctic peoples eat (or ate) a diet that is mostly meat/fat.  I don't know the percentages or anything, but it's hard to imagine growing corn on the tundra.  :)

That doesn't change your point, but it's an exception.

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The Pub / Re: Cask Ale vs Alcopop
« on: October 27, 2010, 03:43:53 PM »
I disagree though, most great brewpubs will tell you just how important their relationship with the local homebrewers is.  I will say that nowdays cost is a huge factor in the life of a homebrewer.
If you're disagreeing, you'll have to point out where I said that brewpubs don't care about homebrewers  ;)

Cost is certainly a factor, but if you spend 3 hours and $30 making 2 cases of beer and have to wait a few weeks for it, but you can buy 2 cases of better beer than you make for less than $60 and have it right now, then you might opt for the store bought stuff.  Unless of course, you just like brewing.

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The Pub / Re: Cask Ale vs Alcopop
« on: October 27, 2010, 03:19:31 PM »
I guess, I should have mentioned, this weeks brewing tv episode got me thinking about cask ale.  The pub in madison(?) that had ten casks (pins, firkins,etc; not the point of this thread) and that appeared to be one of many brewpubs in the area.  My assumption is that, their drinking culture may lead to more (good) homebrewers than areas where alcopops rule.
I'm not so sure.  It might get them interested in good beer and maybe brewing their own, but we have lots of good beer here and I know some people who have quit brewing because it is easier (and sometimes better and cheaper) to drop off a corny at a brewery and get it filled than it is to make it yourself.  There was one place that would fill a corny for $25, although they're now up to $45.  Some guys just buy a 1/2 bbl and push it into 3 cornies, then return the shell.

If the only reason you brew is to make better beer because you can't get it where you live, you'll quit as soon as the good beer becomes available.  But if you love brewing your own you'll keep doing it.

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The Pub / Re: Any beekeepers?
« on: October 27, 2010, 03:11:22 PM »
[You can make mead from any honey.

I'm not sure what you mean by cleaned up, but some store bought stuff is heated very warm.  This allows them to filter it to remove particles and helps prevent it from crystallizing, but it also affects the taste.  Some producers heat to lower temps to filter it, and it is more gentle on the honey.  True raw honey is basically just dumped into the container and should retain all of the original volatiles.  They probably remove the large bee parts though :)

you can also find true raw honey with the bee parts etc still in. The additional protiens and pollen etc can really help the ferment along as well.
I've never really asked the guy up the street how he processes his honey, but mine occasionally has a leg or two in it.  I guess it's not filtered then, or just done badly  ;D

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The Pub / Re: Keeping chickens
« on: October 27, 2010, 03:09:07 PM »
I'd stick with wood, but use either treated, redwood, cedar etc... they'll hold up alot longer.
I might stick with wood, I'll have to see.  If I do, I'll probably go with pine to keep it light, even though it will rot faster.  I'll see how long it lasts with that and maybe a coat of paint on it, then consider upgrading to something longer lasting.  It all depends on how well the chicken raising is going.

Don't get cockerels unless you plan on butchering them.
From the place we'll get them, they're not sexed.  If we end up with boys, they'll be gone one way or another :)  I'm not keeping them around.  I might prefer a male duck though, I don't really go for duck eggs.  :-\

the predators we have problems with are racoons and hawks.  Racoons mostly at dusk and at night.  We have not found an enclosure that is truly racoon proof.

Thanks Bruce.  I've heard the chickens will often scratch the larger slugs, so whether they eat them or not isn't so important :)  We have some bald eagles and bobcats in the neighborhood sometimes, they might go for a full grown one.  Maybe not.  The coyotes are regular visitors though.  I rarely see raccoons, but that doesn't mean they're not there.  I figure as long as I remember to lock the chickens up at night they should be ok.  Or not.  We'll find out :)

tom, you must be a small guy ;D  
Most would not say that, but maybe I'm just bad at estimating length.  Guys are supposed to over estimate length though, right?  :)

Mom and Dad would order around 150 chicks each Spring
Feeding an army?  Where do you keep 150 chickens once they're slaughtered?  Did you just have a huge freezer?

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The Pub / Re: Any beekeepers?
« on: October 27, 2010, 02:48:23 PM »
Can you make mead from raw honey? any difference than the 'cleaned up' stuff?
You can make mead from any honey.

I'm not sure what you mean by cleaned up, but some store bought stuff is heated very warm.  This allows them to filter it to remove particles and helps prevent it from crystallizing, but it also affects the taste.  Some producers heat to lower temps to filter it, and it is more gentle on the honey.  True raw honey is basically just dumped into the container and should retain all of the original volatiles.  They probably remove the large bee parts though :)

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The Pub / Re: Cask Ale vs Alcopop
« on: October 27, 2010, 02:40:58 PM »
There I places I go that always have a cask on, others that are occasional, some that never do.  Whether I get any or not depends on what it is.  My wife loves cask beers though, she usually goes for one.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: my first brew!
« on: October 27, 2010, 02:34:36 PM »
It's only been 19 hours, don't worry about it.  It just needs more time.  If you want it to taste the best it can, figure out some way to keep it cooler.  70F is a max IMO, if you can get it under 68F that's even better.

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Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Firestone Walker Union Jack IPA
« on: October 27, 2010, 12:52:41 PM »
Or maybe I do, it's been several months since I've had it at least.

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The Pub / Re: Keeping chickens
« on: October 27, 2010, 12:51:34 PM »
I'm thinking about a bunch of 1x3s to make a lightweight frame...

 PVC pipe might be easier and cheaper.
Hmmm . . . It will hold up better with our weather, and I already have the pvc cement . . . I'd have to design it a little differently to account for the great flexibility of the pvc, but that's no big deal . . .  harder to attach the chicken wire, but I have some rebar wire I could use to hold it in place . . . harder to take apart than if I use screws to hold the boards together, but I can dry fit parts of it and just take it apart in sections . . .

I doubt it will be easier or cheaper, those 1x3s are less than $1.50 each and don't require any special fittings to connect them to each other, just a screw.  But strictly from a longevity standpoint it might be the way to go.

Great idea tubercle!   ;D

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Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Firestone Walker Union Jack IPA
« on: October 27, 2010, 12:20:39 PM »
Weird.  I think it's an excellent beer, I like it a lot.  I think it's nearly as good as Pliny.

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I'm not a PNW'er and I thought they were average and unexciting.

That just means you're ready to move here!  ;)

You never know what the next few years will bring.  ;) I've toyed with moving to the area (Eugene) over the last ten years.
If you move to Eugene, promise me you'll tell everyone the town is named after you!   ;D

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