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Kegging and Bottling / Re: Post Keg Fittings... confused
« on: September 18, 2010, 12:20:04 AM »
The posts themselves on the correct in and outputs would cause the CO2 and tap ball valves to fit properly?
They are slightly different sizes, so the gas post does not fit a liquid disconnect easily.  So the grey (gas) disconnect should fit the one with the cuts easily, and the black (liquid) disconnect should fit the smooth post easily.  If they're not fitting the proper post easily try keg lube or some oil as euge suggests.  I wouldn't use olive oil since it can go rancid over time, although it might not really matter.  But I've got a bottle of mineral oil I would use if not for the keg lube.  Btw, don't spring for fancy mineral oil sold for oiling your wooden kitchen utensils.  Buy the stuff that is labeled as a laxative (at least in the US).  It is the same stuff, but 1/3 the price.

By the way, how do you get those posts off your kegs?
I use what I call a keg wrench.  It's a Craftsmen ratcheting box wrench I got from Sears for ~$12.  11/16" on one end, 7/8" on the other.  Some of my kegs have smaller fittings, some larger, this one wrench fits both size fittings.  Plus, it ratchets!  I actually have two, after I lost one for a year when I moved.

I have some kegs where the rubber top comes up high enough that it is hard to get the wrench on - is that the thin area to which you're referring?  I use vice grips or robo-grips to get hose off, but I tend to get rid of them after a while.  I'm spoiled by my keg wrench.

As for bizarre fitting, no eyed deer.  Maybe with a pic the collective wisdom of the forums could figure it out. :)

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Equipment and Software / Re: Morebeer mash kettle and mash thickness
« on: September 17, 2010, 11:10:00 PM »
Oh, I think I figured out what you mean euge.  The volume under the false bottom is not the same as the dead space when I drain my keggle, so yeah, accounting for losses to the boil due to dead space in the tun is a different calculation.  But for thickness, I subtract out what's under the false bottom.  Hope that makes sense.

Equipment and Software / Re: Morebeer mash kettle and mash thickness
« on: September 17, 2010, 11:05:04 PM »
Yeah, but adding a couple of pounds will thicken your mash.  If you're aiming for a certain thickness then you should ignore the volume under the false bottom IMO.  You just end up using less sparge water.  Again, I'm not saying it's right, just the way I do it.  :)

Kegging and Bottling / Re: Post Keg Fittings... confused
« on: September 17, 2010, 10:51:35 PM »
Ok, here's a pic - ignore that the one on the left is a 6-point nut, and the one on the right is a 12-point nut.  They come in both.  But notice that the one on the right has cuts in the corners of the nut, while the one on the left is smooth.  The one on the left is a liquid post, the one on the right is a gas post.

Cuts = gas.  Smooth = liquid.

Kegging and Bottling / Re: Post Keg Fittings... confused
« on: September 17, 2010, 10:40:06 PM »
My problem isn't necessarily the post connecting to the keg - it's that the ball valve won't connect to the post.

Sorry if I didn't explain this well.  The posts are interchangeable in that they will each fit on the keg in either position.  They are not interchangeable in that the liquid connector will not easily fit on the gas post if you have them switched.

Seriously, look for the cuts at the base where the wrench would grip, that will tell you which is the gas post and which is the liquid. I'll get you some pics so you can see what I'm talking about.

If you already know though, and have them on the right way, apologies.  Keg lube might help.

Equipment and Software / Re: Morebeer mash kettle and mash thickness
« on: September 17, 2010, 09:47:35 PM »
I ignore the volume under the false bottom when calculating mash thickness, then just add it to make up for it.  For example, if there's a gallon under the false bottom and you're mashing 20 lbs of grain at 1.2 qts/lb, that's 24 qts of water, or 6 gallons, plus 1 gallon from under the false bottom and so I use 7 gallons of water in the mash tun.

Not sure if it's the right thing to do exactly, but it works for me.

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: The nuclear (Beano) option
« on: September 17, 2010, 09:07:09 PM »
I added amylase to a stuck beer once and forgot about it.  It dropped to 1.002, no new yeast required.  YMMV

Kegging and Bottling / Re: Post Keg Fittings... confused
« on: September 17, 2010, 09:03:03 PM »
Hey Bill,

Before I knew better I used to have this problem.  The liquid fitting would sometimes not go on unless I really forced it on.  I even broke some of the fittings trying to get them off of the post.  Invariably it was a problem because I had washed bunch of kegs and when putting them back together had switched the posts around.  The gas and liquid posts are not interchangeable.

If you look at the bottom of the posts, the part where you will attach the wrench - the gas fittings have little horizontal cuts there, the liquid fittings do not.  Make sure you have them in the right places.

If you do and it's still a problem, try some keg lube, basically a food-grade silicon lubricant.

I hope that fixes it.  Can't help you with the Spartenburg kegs, I don't have any experience with them.

Ingredients / Re: Berry Beer
« on: September 17, 2010, 09:46:49 AM »
Sure, that works.  It might not be as clear if the keg is going to get moved around, but if it's going to sit in one spot (like in a serving fridge) then it should clear up and be fine.

Ingredients / Re: Berry Beer
« on: September 17, 2010, 09:10:53 AM »
That's fine, as long as you get renewed fermentation it's no problem.  I'd have a packet of dried yeast on hand though, so you're ready to add yeast if you don't see activity.

Equipment and Software / Re: Fermentation chamber ideas
« on: September 17, 2010, 09:09:01 AM »
I haven't done it yet either, but am planning something similar right next to my keezer.  The trickier part for me is the return, since they will be at the same level (I'll cut through the collar).  I don't think I'll have a problem with cold air spilling into the space, but in order to make sure the air will circulate throughout the space when the fan is on I'll put in a little duct to move the return to the bottom.  I think it will work out well.

Ingredients / Re: Berry Beer
« on: September 17, 2010, 08:58:21 AM »
In that case, definitely rack to a bucket.  Freeze/thaw the fruit first, then rack the beer on top of it.  You might need to add some fresh yeast, depending on how long it's already been in secondary.  So after some time on the fruit in tertiary, you can rack to quaternary to help it clear. :)

How much fruit to add depends on the base beer and how strong of a fruit presence you want, so if you gave us some style/strength details we can better suggest lbs/gallon.

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Kegging and Bottling / Re: Dispensing Equipment For Nitrogen/Beer Gas
« on: September 16, 2010, 08:21:28 PM »
Yeah, the tap is the most important thing really.  Gas places near me will put the CO2/N2 mix in a CO2 tank, so I don't need different gauges or a different tank.  But it wouldn't be the same without the faucet.

The Pub / Re: Why Grammar is Important
« on: September 16, 2010, 03:06:11 PM »
speaking of pronunciations.

the word vaccine is pronounced vacksine or vaxine.  the correct pronounciation? way to say flaccid is actually flaxid the same as vaccine.  i have found a source that indicates that it can be said flassid, and nearly everybody in the medical community says it this way. so when i say it correctly, i get goofy stares.  :-\
Flassid is much more common than flaxid.  While it is correct to say it flaxid, it is not more correct than saying it flassid.  Both are acceptable. :)

Kegging and Bottling / Re: New keg system
« on: September 16, 2010, 02:57:32 PM »
Good suggestions in this thread. But, in the interest of keeping things simple, I would suggest settling on a pressure and keg temp setting that works for a range of styles and call it good.
Yes, that totally works too.  Good point. :)

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